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Forum4 => Swimming for my Dad => Topic started by: Mr G on 01 April 2014 11:41:09 PM
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This is addressed to you, Mr X, but I hope everyone will join the conversation.
I said in another post that I had some synchronicities occur around emotionally charged events, and I would like to elaborate on that here. It's a long story, but it involves your good self as well as ju4o in very strange ways, so I hope you'll read it.
Three years ago, when you were Aristide and I a dupe, we were having this same conversation over at SR. The date was 11 Jan 2011 (or 11/1/11 if you will), the time 11:04. I just noticed that now. This is what you said, in the thread Remember what the dormouse said:
Hello Dupe,
Well the Frequencys of Those Syncs, If they Meant Something, Would Mean Something. It Could Just be You Becoming More aware Of How Everything Is Connected or Something, Like the Frequancy Is you. But We Dont' know If things Mean Something wether often Or Not, So It Seems To Be The Sticking Point, Not Knowing.
I was talking about synchronicities a lot and was then, as now, a little embarrassed by it.
Well As Far As The Puncline, Due To Youre' Referecnce To Your Apple Holding Avatar, I got a Funny Sync Too. A few hours Before Reading that post, I Was Playing And Video Game, And enjoying it, But There Was This Puzzle. There Were Old Paintings And 5 of Them Had the Same Pattern Which I Had to Find. At First I thought it Was Tits, As There Was Lots Of Nakeidity in those Old Paintings. But That Was wrong, And I Couldnt' Figure It Out. But the Pattern Was the Paintings With People with Apples, in hands or near.
That day, a tuesday, was the day after my work year started. On monday, we had worked out a registration timetable which meant we'd be off for several hours between shifts. A colleague twisted my rubber arm to get me to go AWOL. He took me to a toy store because he collected model cars. On the wall was a poster for Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. It seemed strange. It was like I was watching a 3D movie and this thing kept poking out at me. I stared at it for minutes, it was talking to me but I couldn't understand the language. We left.
Anyway The Game Was Assassins Creed 2. I dont' Normally have time To Play Through Whole Games like that but I enjoyed the Story of AC 1 and the second Is much Better. Funny that I remeber You Saying You Tried The Avatar Game and It Was bad, As I Remebered you when There Was An Video Trailer for the Avatar Game In the AC2 menus. The Game Is Sort Of Based on An Guy Recovering Past Life / Genetic Memories Thru and Technology, And Instead of Dying for example, you "lose Sync" with The Memory. Synchronising is An Constant Part of The Game as An General System.
When I read this, I figured perhaps I had a foreshadowing of your synchronicity. Something else bothered me. Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, was not named Assassin's Creed 3. (It was followed by Assassin's Creed Revelations and then only came Assassin's Creed 3.) Something bothered me about the numbering... but the moment passed and I forgot about it.
A few months passed. The colleague I went AWOL with registered his son at our college. I was against this, I felt he wasn't ready... he hadn't finished school but we had programmes that accepted learners at that level. I thought his dad did it to save money. He was a handsome kid. When he was with his dad, you sometimes got the impression that he was the adult and his dad a big kid. We spoke occasionally, but I started avoiding him and his dad because I felt so strongly that they were doing the wrong thing... robbing him of at least one more year of childhood.
Then, one day out of the blue, he called me on my cellphone. He asked me a very strange question: "I'm sorry to bother you, but do you have Assassin's Creed 3?" I was flabbergasted. He had never called me before, and while we did once have a conversation about games, I didn't know why he would think I would have that game. I said, "Sorry, no", he said "OK, thanks". For the next few minutes my head was rushing. I felt that something strange had just occurred. Why did he call me? Why that specific game and why did he get the numbering wrong, something that specifically bothered me that day in the toy store with his father. I knew something was wrong.
This was a friday. That saturday night he would crash the car he was too young to drive into a tree and pass away. With no identification on him, his dad would only discover this that tuesday.
End of part one.
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This is not yet part two. Like Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, it falls between numbered posts. This is my post from Sustained Reaction on that day in 2011.
Hi Tom. Well yes, of course you are f....ing special and we all love you for it.
I wasn't going to say something, 'cause I'm actually getting increasingly bored and embarrassed with this. Since you expressed your specialness, I wondered if you might not appreciate this report after all.
While reading Aristide's account of Assassin's Creed 2, whose main character is called Ezio Auditore da Firenze (Ezio Auditore of Florence), and simultaneously watching on my PC TV a program on BBC Knowledge called The Story of Science, which at the time was recounting the story of how Galileo Galilei (of Florence) made his first telescope with an organ pipe and some lenses he ground with cannonballs, I thought of the time when I myself was playing Assassin's Creed 2 some months ago.
I was visiting the folks that weekend and saw that on National Geographic channel there would be a program about Florence quite late, around 11:30 if I recall. My mom really wanted to watch it because they had been to Florence quite recently and wanted to know more about the city. I wanted to see how it compared to the Assassin's Creed game environment. While we were all waiting for the show which started much later, I changed the channel to a science program whose name escapes me now. It was about astronomy, and it wasn't long before we were treated to an explanation of how Galileo (of Florence) shook up the orthodoxy with his discovery of non-geocentric orbits, specifically the moons of Jupiter. This show was so damned interesting, but unfortunately, my stomach was acting up and I had to remove myself to the privy. As I sat down, mad at my mom for only having gardening magazines in the bathroom, I opened a copy of Garden and Home magazine, where I promptly discovered, on the page that I had opened it on, that the Walnut tree's scientific name is Juglans, meaning "Jupiter's Nuts".
The show about Florence later also had quite a bit to say about Galileo as well, as one of the city's most famous citizens. Back in the future (yesterday), I found myself in a toy store with a colleague of mine who was buying model cars for his collection, staring intently at a poster for the game Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood for a good minute while wondering if I am now getting too old to play games. Admittedly, this was several hours before I read Aristide's post about Assassin's Creed 2, so I'm sure this doesn't count as a coincidence. Does it?
Well, let's have a toast on our specialness, and let's hope that this is going to be a special year for us all. In a good way.
Peace.
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hello mr g,
i am posting to say - continue.
looking forward to part 2.
i can remember us talking about ac on sr, as each time i played it after that (brotherhood, revelations, ac3, ac4) it popped into my head. i remembered those quoted posts, wondered what dupe is up to these days, and reminisced in good times at sr. i also did wonder if i missed something with what you said at the time. (when it pops into my head it is usually the story of you looking at the poster, at first)
jupiters nuts sounds like an exclamation ron burgundy would say.
well i guess i should get into the freedom cry dlc thats been sitting on my hard drive for a while.
mr x.
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And so it was in the year of our lord 2011 that none of us posted any longer at that accursed place. I felt no great sense of loss, save for not being able to read more posts by ra6as and Aristide. It was also my only opportunity to talk about that side of my interests... the mysterious side of life. I had never known anyone with whom I could discuss such things before. At least not for more than a few minutes at a time...
...but I lie. There was one such person.
As a student, a friend and I went up a hill to partake of power plants. We were to meet other friends of his. We met two gentlemen: a jolly rotund one that, under the influence, appeared like a joyous buddha, and an unkempt crusty punk replete with wallet chain and hand-drawn T-shirt that said "Nazi punks fuck off!"
The conversation turned to spooky matters. The round one complained about a ghost in his bed. The skeptic in me kicked in: "That's just sleep paralysis, man!" The punk agreed, "I'm not saying there's no such thing, but that sounds really typical of a sleep paralysis episode." We continued to argue the case together. I was quite taken aback, no one ever agreed with me like that, or knew what the hell I was talking about half the time. Worse, I would make an obscure Douglas Adams reference, and he'd complete the joke. I had never met someone who had even heard of Beck, we were alternately quoting lines of pseudolyrics.
I'm a driver, I'm a winner
Things are gonna change, I can feel it
We became fast friends. He gave me a photocopied book, painstakingly hand leather bound and made to look exactly like a bible. It was called "Sex, Drugs and Magick: A journey beyond limits". To return the favour, I gave him A Separate Reality. We started working for his brother, shared digs and talked incessantly about the world behind the veil...
...and, unfortunately, both developed a devastating narcotics habit. I managed to drag myself out of it, got another job, finished my studies. He was not as lucky. I moved to another city. Last I heard about him, a former colleague told me "I ran into him... he didn't look like himself."
Many years passed. After we all stopped posting at SR, ju4o sent me an email to say that he had started a forum and that Aristide among others was posting there. Unfortunately, I had created that email address for the sole purpose of communication with j4 when we were still at SR, and didn't think I'd use it again after we all left. For some reason, I had to register online for something, and thought of using that address so I wouldn't get my main address spammed up. I thus discovered the message late, and when I got here Mr X had stopped posting. I had a few interesting discussions here, but got the idea that since Mr X stopped posting and with Tosk and Merlin rather scarce, j4 wasn't really interested in maintaining the forum anymore. I gently sneaked out the back door, and thought I had now finally left all that magic stuff behind me.
Until... a few weeks ago, I sat at my computer and something reminded me of my old friend. I wondered what he was up to and, on a whim, typed his name into google. Unfortunately, what I found was his obituary. He had died a year before. I was in shock. He was the closest thing to a brother I had ever had. I felt compelled to contact his brother and give my condolences. I had heard he now worked for a newspaper and tried to find his work email. To access the paper online, I had to register. For some reason I remembered the j4 address, now dormant for two years, and used it to register for the newspaper. I found this:
hello,
are you going to come back to forum 4 mr g ?
mr x.
This was sent 3 days before I saw it. I would never have seen it.
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hello mr g,
i have to admit, some of the synchronicty talk in this thread and the other one has me going like this
(http://i.imgur.com/PEkBoao.gif).
it has given me something to think about, interested. sometimes im not sure what to say.
i am hoping there is an part trio. if there is or isnt, i would like to know what you think of these synchronicity, and what effect they had on you, your thinking at the time and so on. what did it mean to you as it all happened (i am also curious what made you think of your friend, as that seems instrumental).
i cant remember why exactly i sent you that message at that time, but it would of had to do with what was happening on this forum at the time.
it has made me think of an extra category for synch - functional ones, meaning not required. such as some people might think synchs happen due to the universe giving them an message (intelligence behind it), some synchs have subjective meaning for the person experiencing them, but then there is an synch that results in something actually happening - not so much containing meaning but containing function (for whatever reason).
mr x.
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Well, I suppose we are creating part three as we go along.
My film selection for this fair Sunday morn was Joss Whedon's take on "Much Ado About Nothing", starring among others Mr Nathan Fillion as Dogberry. At about an hour and 20 minutes in I realised I wasn't really paying attention and paused it. If I can get this right, here is a screenshot of what was paused on my PC for several hours today.
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee420/gmbgmb/Dogberry_zpsed39b816.jpg)
I'll get back to your questions, but as to what it means, your guess is as good as mine.
Edit: I have now re-watched the film and can highly recommend it. Fillion just about steals the show, but Benedick and Beatrice are excellent too.
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it is funny little things like that, the gif and pause picture. i will be sure to watch that movie soon.
the meaning is definatley the wall the synch discussion is hitting.
say if for some reason i had to come up with a meaning for the synch that led you back here, it would be something like
"as you went to make a last gesture of respect for your friend, a parting gift from him was you being led to somewhere where you can talk about that stuff again and be yourself" (or any of the many variations of the same theme, just different words)
but adding meaning like that opens up so many can of worms.
i am happy in the other thread that tosk mentioned "whether meaning and information are the same thing". one thing this conversation has had me thinking, is that synchs seem to be ongoing, like more than one instance. more like a pattern or network of events, than an singular coincidence.
say a person (1) lost their wallet, and only realized they lost as they are line to pay for something. as they panic and look for their wallet somehow the person behind them (2) realizes the wallet they found earlier belongs to that person and saves the day. just an nice coincidence, out of the chaos of the universe things just randomly lined up.
if an month later 2 lost their wallet, and it was found and returned by 1, then it seems there is something going on, an synchronicity. and anyone on earth would think "what does this mean ?"
well it seems that way to me, meaning, no idea.
with meaning be an stalling point right now, it made me interesed in other factors (such as effect on person, effect on thinking/emotion). such i know in the past synchs have made me feel "hyped up" or given some sort of lift to my feeling.
i have also been reminded by this converstation, but dont quote me on this, even the ultra casta belifer theun mares, a very hardcore toltec guy who even had his own strict and elaborate cosmology, was of the "there is no meaning to anything aside from the meaning you give to anything". (not his words just off the top of my head, i just thought it was curious he went with that). i might try to find the quote if i can.
mr x.
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Great synchronicity!! Your discretion is keenly calibrated. But now I understand more what you meant on 17th March ("there is something funny going on here") ... at the time I wondered what you meant and had no idea.
This synchronicity is suffused with meaning, I think, and one thing it means is that I can send you email to a basically nonfunctional email address and it can take you 3 months to get it, while Mr X can send you email to the same address and it can take you 3 days. I wonder how long it took the nigthingale. Here is a timeline,
(http://zeta.forum4.org/pix/dayline1396693701.png)
The green bars show posting at forum4. The left hand blue bar is when I sent you email (Apr 2012) and the right hand one is when Mr X sent you email (three weeks ago). These bars are automatically generated and are accurate to one second but some resolution is necessarily lost when they are scaled down for web viewing.
Also it's funny how you two never overlapped at this forum until now ~ one of you kept leaving just before the other appeared. That's got to mean something.
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nice image mr j.
for the sake of information i want to add - i didnt send an message to mr g by email. forum4 did, i sent an pm to mr g and hoped for the best.
mr x.
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The plot thickens! Thanks for that, j4. I will make a more serious post trying to answer some of the questions that have come up, including the meaning of "meaning". That reminds me of Clinton:
That depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
First, I need to get some more synchronicities out of my system, then you please tell me when I'm getting carried away. The main thing for me is that it certainly appears as if they are much more frequent when I post here.
Right, nightingale first. Then, severed hands.
But the big news this evening is......Nightingale!!
I wonder how long it took the nigthingale.
Some time before coming here again I became mildly obsessed with Shakespeare and what Merlin called a conspiracy theory. My interest waned slightly, but got lit again after the post about sonnet 127 I made elsewhere on this forum. I have been watching every Shakespeare film adaptation I can get my hands on, and yesterday it was Titus Andronicus' turn. In act 2, scene 3, Aaron speaks thusly:
Hark Tamora, the empress of my soul,
Which never hopes more heaven than rests in thee,
This is the day of doom for Bassianus:
His Philomel must lose her tongue to-day,
Thy sons make pillage of her chastity
And wash their hands in Bassianus' blood.
I added the italics, and for good reason. Philomela is the woman who is turned into a nightingale in Ovid's Metamorphoses. How would I possibly know this? Ovid's translator was Arthur Golding, the uncle of Edward de Vere, who stands accused of being the greatest writer of all time in disguise.
Cecil appears to have employed Golding as his nephew's receiver for several years, for two of his dedications are dated from Cecil House, and in 1567 he dated a dedication from Barwicke, one of the de Vere manors near White Colne, Essex. (wikipedia)
Lavinia, the nightingale figure in this play, has her tongue cut out (female nightingales are mute) and both her hands cut off. Later, Titus Andronicus himself has his hand severed by Aaron to appease Saturninus. In unrelated news: today, my lady friend tells a tale of when she was pranked by some roguish knave, and given a fake severed hand in a cake tin. She knew none of Titus Andronicus, or of my watching. Hours later I would watch the first episode of the new season of Game of Thrones, wherein Jaime Lannister is fitted with a fake to replace his severed hand.
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee420/gmbgmb/lavinialannister_zps373465b9.jpg)
On the left, Lavinia (the nightingale, whose brother slays the king). On the right, Jaime Lannister (the kingslayer, whose sister/lover bears the new king).
Now, me
I learned for a second time that "zounds" is a contraction of "God's wounds", like "Gadzooks" is a contraction of "God's hooks" (the nails from the cross)
Now, Aaron, act 4, scene 2 (upon receiving his son, the queen's bastard)
'Zounds, ye whore! is black so base a hue?
Sweet blowse, you are a beauteous blossom, sure.
Now Shake-speare, quoted elsewhere on this forum
But now is black beauty's successive heir,
And beauty slandered with a bastard shame:
I think I should stop there, but then there's also "jupiters nuts sounds like an exclamation ron burgundy would say." He in fact said "By the beard of Zeus," who's the same god. I wrote Part Deux because I remembered it from the stupid Charlie Sheen movie, but it is also a homophone of "Par Dieu!", which means "By God!" and if you type de pardieu into google translate (French to English) you get "of Jove" which means "of Jupiter" and, my word... is that the time?
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Well I gotta say that maybe that is a bit rambly, but I think rambling can be good, it is what these forums can be good for.
When you gave that Shakespeare sonnet in another post, I thought that you translated it in a rather odd way. But then I looked up what other people have said about it, and it seems that different experts interpret it in completely different ways.
By the way, I don't think by any means all synchronicities are suffused with meaning. The meaningful ones tend to come in meteoric showers scintillating and hinting at half-seen connections as though a woven fabric of intent pervades everything.
Which is similar to what Mr X said just now about them being "ongoing".
But there are also isolated coincidences which are enough to raise an eyebrow but not deeply meaningful, I think just funny.
Here is an example. Many years ago Aesop organized a forum for about 5 posters and I think no one else even knew about it. It was very interesting and great fun but at one point I decided that the forum could do with a little bit of mystery, that a frisson of uncertainty would contribute to the conversation. Therefore I registered a new posting identity with the purpose of adding mystery and uncertainty to the forum. Can you guess what posting name I chose?
The name I chose was "Customer X".
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Yep, sorry about that. It's now out of my system.
Let me just make sure of something, and forgive me if anyone is offended. You and Mr X are not the same person, are you?
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No! And I hope Mr X says the same ... otherwise we will be in a real pickle.
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No! And I hope Mr X says the same ... otherwise we will be in a real pickle.
mr x.
ps. i like to read rambles, sometimes a good ramble is the only way get some thoughts on the table (especially with this synch talk, as one event can link to many other factors, often personal, and always detail heavy, how else is there to describe it aside from lots of information presented at once). there is no need for being sorry or embarrassed about anything.
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by the way mr g, after i last posted i got on with my thursday night viewing, and within seconds saw this
(http://i.imgur.com/FBRBFNo.png)
just posting as thought it was worth a laugh.
mr x.
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No! And I hope Mr X says the same ... otherwise we will be in a real pickle.
That's a relief as well as a laugh! The Swimming for my Dad subforum had me thinking about the "meaning" of some synchronicities we discussed at SR. So, WARNING, here follows a tentative attempt at analysis.
At one point Mr X and I had a series of exchanges involving the syllable "Da". It included (from memory) the Dada art movement, Da-Da-Da by Trio, Das Auto, and I think, Beethoven's fifth. You know - Da da da da... da da da da...
I never noticed the German theme, I wonder if that is significant? ju4o, at the time sporting some other unpronouncable moniker, suggested that it may have something to do with my father. (Dada, how did I miss that one?)
Tosk has suggested that synchronicities tend to cluster around emotionally charged events. Perhaps it does not have to simply be an event. Perhaps emotions sit closer to the secret levers that allow consciousness to interact directly with "the world". I don't know very much about psychology, but I must admit that I have some father issues. I think this is a fairly common thing for sons. My biggest issue is constantly seeking my father's approval. I'm going to blame evolution here, because I do not understand why this should be so. It always seems that whatever I do is not good enough. This causes me anxiety, not just with my actual father but with other "authority figures". In this, I have noticed a certain self-defeating mechanism that I am sometimes convinced is supernatural. For example, my attempts to give my father a workable flight simulator has over the years suffered such unbelievable mishaps that it's impossible to believe it's merely "bad luck" alone. I suspect that some kind of belief (that I really am not good enough) presses the secret buttons that makes the machines go haywire. The process is ongoing, but it seems to have calmed down a bit since I've started working on that aspect of myself. Of course, that didn't stop the X-Plane DVD1 from mysteriously accelerating uncontrollably and destroying itself and the drive in the process... but at least I could find a workaround. Progress.
That was my bit of overshare for the day. In summary, my conjecture is that consciousness can exert some control over "The Matrix", but that it requires low level programming knowledge.
PS Ali X, I'll end our series of hands with this beauty from the latest episode of Hannibal:
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee420/gmbgmb/miriamhannibal_zpsec5bd846.jpg)
Now this isn't really that interesting until you remember that it's Anthony Hopkins, the original Hannibal in the picture in my prior post. Also, Titus Andronicus grinds up the Queen's sons and feed them to her.
Just sayin' ;D.
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"It always seems that whatever I do is not good enough."
There could be a very simple remedy for that problem, which is to have some children yourself.
If you look at your kids, or even just think about some kids which you might theoretically have, then realize you don't really care how good enough they are and you're just happy they're alive, hopefully your dad feels much the same about you and if he doesn't it doesn't matter.
"that didn't stop the X-Plane DVD1 from mysteriously accelerating uncontrollably and destroying itself and the drive in the process... but at least I could find a workaround"
That could definitely do with some explanation I think. Especially if it's candidate for supernatural. Are you talking about a DVD disk accelerating uncontrollably in its disk drive? What was the workaround?
Flight simulator brings up the bird meme again. Also rejoicing in heavenly goings on. As antidote to grandiosity. Very nice.
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I think I already understand that, it's not a debilitating condition or anything. Just trying to figure out some "feelings" type stuff.
Yes indeed, the DVD apparently went crazy in the drive. I wasn't around at the time but my dad said he had to unplug the PC and open it with a paperclip. After the disc was heavily scratched and the drive didn't work again. When I saw the disc it appeared that there was a slight eccentricity around the centre hole, but I don't know if that was caused by the drive. I don't mean that it couldn't be explained through normal means. I'm sure there could have been a defect in the disc or drive that might have caused it, it's the pattern of bad luck I questioned.
I downloaded a copy of the disc and mounted a virtual image. I won't feel guilty because I paid a lot of money for that program.
Question: Is there some type of art or music or poetry that switches on your mystical circuits? I enjoy art of the type you used to get on 70s pulp sci-fi/fantasy novels.
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee420/gmbgmb/fantasy_art_boris_vallejo_zpsa9d6a30a.jpg)
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Ah Vallejo...
I sense that there is more than just your "mystical circuits" getting turned on here. lol.
But, the word I use for art/music/poetry that grabs you and mystically carries you away is transportive.
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How about getting for your dad an account at forum4?
He could be G major.
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hello mr g,
an few things. i wonder if your father is worth seeking the apporval of, or if he actively shows signs of dissaproval. if he is an good man and you look up to him, then why not, but if he makes you seek it out and is never happy with you then maybe he is the problem. evolution wise it makes sense the favourite son would have advantages.
at least x plane will be coming to steam, so no more dvds. i sorta think that if youre dad cant even install an program himself, he shouldnt be annoyed if you have any trouble in the process of actually doing something he cant.
if negative thinking was enough to call out the supernatural ability to shape events, then positive thinking could do the same. aside from things like "the secret". it would seem likely if really strong positive thoughts and belief in oneself were all it takes to shape the world in an supernatural way, all the people who really do belief in magic/paranormal/new age would do actual magic. and they dont seem to.
im sure its not something you could just "snap out of", but i do think
"In summary, my conjecture is that consciousness can exert some control over "The Matrix", but that it requires low level programming knowledge"
is an better way of approaching it and seeking change than positive thinking.
i do understand the "this is so uncannily perfectly bad, it is like some intelligence figured out how to make each event so perfectly bad" thinking.
regarding the hands, lets not forget the greatest of severed hands.
(http://gfbrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ned.jpg)
i read that post while waiting for an show to bufer/download, a new to me show called "orphan black". i saw that pic and thought "hey is that morpheus", downloaded the first ep of hannibal and it was morpheus - and then binged watched all of hannibal (i totally knew miriam was alive the whole time due to that pic). pretty good show, though i dont normally like case of the week cop shows. i also binged on orphan black, and a severed hand and arm was a plot point in that, but i didnt think it was an sync. more like an linkronicty.
if i can explain - such as that information (cut hand in ob) was always there, i only noticed it because of this thread. it was a link, related to other information, not some coincdence, if that makes sense. well maybe i cant explain. i havent been wording the best latley. i think there is something to the synch, link, meaning vs information and your "it requires low level programming knowledge", there is something in that cluster that i cant quite word, but have been thinking about.
i have thought about it, and as boring as it sounds - i cant think of what turns on my mystical circuits, or if i have any of those circuits. i will report back if i think of something.
ps. dont have kids to solve problems and dont bring your dad to the forum (lol).
mr j, what is the bird meme ?
mr x.
ps mr g - if you like hannibal you would also like true detective if you havent seen it. 10/10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1P_-ZMpTdc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXwCoNwBSkQ
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okay i am feeling an bit wordy so will try for something.
"Like the Frequancy Is you."
since the start this thread has had me thinking of the last time i had "serious sychonicties". and few years ago.
overall it was an mundane, detail heavy, and not overly pleasant event. it would take far to long to fill in the details.
in short, the event was 3 synchs in a brief time frame, about 5 minutes or less, that blew mine mind (in an very strong way). as an brief little network
of events, it resulted in information - i came out the other side with information about things that were true - actually knowing something
i did not know previously. which was enough for me, if there was any meaning aswell i didnt want to know.
thats were it gets strange, upon scrutinizing the events, about 75% of the information was already in my memeory, it was just reminded and linked together to
give an accurate picture. the rest was the result of that information coming together. there was also an big cloud of resulting perception layered ontop that seemed random
and not related.
the thing is i realized the event, the 3 things happening,must of had happened before, the only difference/thing that made it coincidental was i was there to witness it, which makes me wonder if it even was an
synch, or more that synchs dont have to have meaning, or are even synchs. me being there to witness also shaped future events in an way that further synchs happened later in time.
everything happened because i had deliberatley set into motion events at an previous time. on purpose, to get information, that i got. i just didnt expect the information to arrive in the form
of synchs. the entire experience resides in my mind as an unpleasant one.
i have this thing with the internet where i dont like to interact with it. there is no need. i am not so unique. if i think something there is also an vocal person out there who thinks the same and
will post their thoughts. so i like to hold back. and i enjoy it, being quiet, and if it wasnt for forum4 i would of retired from the internet for good. but i am just posting this vague ramble incase you get something out of it. an example would be wanting to bring up the meaning of meaning, but tosk did, or wanting to bring up douglas adams when you were quick to claim you exist, but you brought him up anyway. sometimes holding back works out, sometimes it just hides links that others might appreciate.
that is my ramble for today.
mr x.
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You know when you started telling that Antitoltec story it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. (Figuratively; I shave my head.) Then you stopped telling the story and I still have no idea if it was real or fiction. Anyway, my point is that I wish you would put a bit more information in your outlines, because they're really interesting. Please colour in that previous post a bit more, if you will.
Anyway, there's one sure way of creating a synchronicity. I have seen the future, and I know what TV show you're going to binge-watch next:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01VGtX9xfh0
If you haven't done so yet.
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hello mr g,
i am happy it gave you an neck chill. it has been an long time since i decided i wouldnt talk about that anymore, and that is how it is still. it is funny that hair stand ups and goosebumps is considered an bona fide way of detecting the paranormal and ghosts on some tv shows.
annoyingly enough, the previous post was the best i could cherry pick that story to try to contribute to the synch discussion. adding more coulor would add more questions, it is an long, mundane, stupid, messy personal story. even if we could vulcan mind meld im not sure i would share it. when the synchs were happening i sorta internally freaked out, and to be honest - thinking about it all in too deep detail makes me sorta internally freak out (anxiety).
the simplest of simple color adding - the information i wanted was about some people (strangers that i crossed paths with in my daily activites), i wanted to know how they connected to each other and how they connected to me. due to some minor synchs and weird dreams i had, and due to generally pay attention to things and deducing some things about the strangers (basically wanting to know if my guesses were correct, if i had actually successful ascertained information just from observation). plus i had nothing better to do.
the cloud of random perception ontop of everything, between the 2 and 3rd synch, was completey out of place and ridiculous. as my jaw was dropping from the synch 2, a personal event that had nothing to do with anything, out of no where i had this great big sudden concern and wave of perception about people like patty partin, carol tiggs, florinda an so on. all sorts of concern and fear they were in danger and other things. it could not of been more out of place. keeping in mind i was in the middle of freaking out internally (keeping it cool externally) over something happening right then and there, it was just bizzare and i actually turned away and looked out an window, only to see the 3rd synch.
anyway, whenever i think about those synchs i also remeber how the casta women thing just popped up out of nowhere. this thread had me thinking of my last serious synchs, that always reminds me of the women thing, so i was thinking about it all since april 1 due to this thread, which lead me to do some googling, and this article was posted on april 11.
http://pvtimes.com/news/missing-amalia-family-pushes-new-search-1998-disappearance-california-cult-members.html
(i have checked around and i wasnt the only one to notice it, detectives abbot and costello are on the case at sr)
which is pretty much what i wanted to add. "Postulate: Post to your forum => synchronicities follow." ? maybe so.
you have on only half seen the future, next on my binge list was anthony bourdains parts unknown. but i paused that and eventually found utopia. i wasnt on my usual site or netflix so i had to install an torrent client and get it that way (suprisingly fast). assassins in a comic store ey - interesting, weird show. i tried to resist any synch think and just think of links.
on an side note, come the weekend i will be bingeing on an game, dark souls 2 will be released. i have successfully avoided all media about it so as to go in blind and enjoy everything. already have it preloaded just waiting now. if it is anywhere near as epic as dark souls 1 i will be over the moon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAeCwNgHR0k
mr x.
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mr j, what is the bird meme ?
mr x.
The bird meme is singing nightly and loudly, ever since it arrived from southern Africa on 30th March (see other thread). Guests are arriving tomorrow and I am slightly worrying if they will actually be able to sleep.
I guess I could try reminding them how in World War 2 when people were evacuated from the city and had to sleep in the country and complained that they were being kept awake by the Nightingale, everyone thought it was very funny.
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Hello Mr X and ju4o.
I am quite excited, I was actually looking for a game like that (waiting for Witcher 3 or Dragon Age 3 whichever comes first) so I decided to jump into Dark Souls 2 while the getting is good. It's preloaded and waiting, apparently, for 3 PM PST today! It looks really good so I hope it will keep my attention. Only thing is I hear it's really difficult and I'm not a regular gamer anymore. Once more into the fray!
j4, if your singing friend becomes a little too vocal for your visitors, I wonder if it would help to play sounds from a bird of prey over your PC speakers. Not that you would want to drive anyone away permanently; just in case he gets too rowdy I think that might hush him up just a bit. I would google it but I'll leave that to you.
Cheers!
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hello mr g,
nice, very cool. i hope you like it. (less than 1 hr away as i type this, i am hyped).
embrace the difficulty i say. i had heard the same about ds1 and was worried i wouldnt be able to beat it, but it turned out to be easily one of the best games ive ever played. its more about learning the systems and improving your dark souls skills and strategy than coming into it with general game skills. ds1 was very unforgiving, obscure in story and teaching the player systems, no hand holding, but fair. overcoming the challenge results in pretty dam good satisfaction as this very tiny gif shows http://i.imgur.com/4uuK6gM.gif
ps. watch out for invaders.
mr j, i was more wondering what the meme part is / why it is an meme.
mr x.
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Bird meme is a more abstract form of bird, and thus able to embrace Major G's flight simulator.
I think what these memes are saying is that rejoicing in heavenly wonders doesn't have to be supernatural.
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By the beard of Zeus this game is difficult! It's like Flappy Bird for suicidal masochists. Goodness gracious. It's going to be a long haul, but I'll tame this beast.
Oh, here's a bird meme:
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee420/gmbgmb/image_zps5e1bfe53.png)
Right on, brother.
EDIT: Starting to get the hang of it. Good game.
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goodness gracious gave me an good chuckle, i think that expression will change to long strings of expletives. it will be an long haul indeed.
ive come up against an few walls that seem impossible at first, but am sure will be possible in the end.
even master dark souls player jeff beat ds 1 in the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yzwf5ZZRdY
mr x.
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Hello Mr X and all, sorry I was MIA but it looks like I'm not alone in that.
Just had to say thank you for introducing me to this game, haven't had much time to play but put in a solid weekend. I thought I was never going to get anywhere but things are looking up. That Ring of Binding makes a huge difference.
Anyway, just reporting in as alive and kicking (undead and kicking in DS2), don't be strangers, strangers.
Cheers!
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hello mr g,
i have been checking the forum most days but otherwise distracted during this mia period, but today got the urge to post something, funny to see you had too.
ive gotta say, where is merlin, he has been mia for ages now.
i played at least many hours before i found the lady with the estus flask/level up lady. i wore the ring of binding for the entire game as i was often hollow and died lots. just started newgame+. once i started to upgrade my bastard sword and got an tower shield things started to look up. i happy you like it, the souls games are and great experience. after beating ds1 i looked up all the media about it, i liked this article -
http://www.destructoid.com/the-sad-reality-of-dark-souls-215398.phtml
when i posted that jeff video, that day i watched his first live stream of ds2 on twitch, as i was far enough ahead there would be no spoilers. he ended the stream with plans to go watch the new episode of orphan black. i was waiting for the stream to end so i could watch that episode as i was downloading while i watch. of course - that episode introduced "the birdwatchers" and had one hell of a hands at the dinner table scene. was no meaning or info to that sync but i thought it was worth an mention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbDmI_2IVQ8 (ds2 trailer for reference incase mr j is wondering what on earth we are talking about, but warning mr g it shows some bosses you havent seen yet)
mr x.
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Hello again, this really is the most rewarding game I've probably ever played. And that includes Mass Effect, to which I have essentially given my actual soul. It's funny to be talking about games like this again, I kind of thought I was done with it.
Anyway, congratulations on finishing the game, I'm still far away from that and I have my doubts if I ever will. Still, just having played it is an experience worth remembering. It brings out emotions that I didn't think I still possessed. I still have this glow in my chest that I haven't felt since... I can't really remember. I know I'm overselling it, it's just the adrenalin buzz, but that alone is worth it's weight in sublime bone dust. Yeah.
Peace be upon you, I must go think of an appropriate image to respond to Tosk's post at the Paperclip thread. I think I have it. RIP Mr Giger.
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it took me just shy of 100 hours to beat it, i averaged about 7 hours a day, some days less some more. but i had planned for it, cooked up lots of food and frozen meals, gathered an considerable stash of wine and pot, made sure my girlfriend was suitabley addicted to netflix shows and seasons of shows i had downloaded, made sure i had no outstanding social obligations. dark souls 2 for me was like a combo of chasing the dragon (seeking the awesomeness of my first experience with dark souls) and an grudge match. i knew what i was in for and i dived into it.
but i havent beaten it yet, there was 2 optional bosses that try as i did, i couldnt beat. so i will face them in ng+ even though they will be stronger.
i dont think you are overselling it, i think to wax lyrical about dark souls is completely appropriate. when i read "glow in my chest" i instantly thought "adrenaline!". when i am really into an show or movie, i sit forward in my seat, anticipating what comes next. and then at the end i think "that was great!, fantastic". but even the very best of tv/movies, 10/10 stuff, doesnt leave me with my heart beating out of my chest, actual real adrenaline going through my body and sometimes a flop sweat.
i think you will beat it. praise the sun.
i very much and generally put vid games in the catagory of tv an movies, general entertainment. they are mainstream and normal avenues to enjoy in spare time. sometimes i feel like doing an engaging activity such as an game over the passive watching of entertainment, in the same way people would prefer to do an crossword puzzle than watch an show where the puzzle is solved on screen without any effort. sometimes i dont feel like it. but i dont think i will ever be done with it. it is not an age thing in same way people dont age out of finding tv and movies entertaining.
mass effect was excellent. the chest glow followed by chest burster made me laugh.
mr .x
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Quote from this morning, "I've got entirely fed up of the nightingales they make such a racket"
Now they are giving music lessons to their chicks and it is no joke.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkc8Mor9RTc
its funny, before mr g re joined the forum, i was aware i would not be here due to distractions during the middle of the year, similar to your infrographic in reply#7. but then mr g was here and i thought i would stick around when i would normally go quiet, but due to ds2 hype i went quiet anyway (hype that was boosted by mr g being hyped).
but i have been thinking about this place.
mr x.
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Did you know that playing some of these games can help a higher purpose? For example, there are games that embody the logic of computer programs so that people playing the game can help check that the program is correct.
Consider for example a program for re-setting forgotten passwords. The program might be quite simple but it is vital that it does the right things in the right order. By making each thing an element in a game and letting people play the game, the game's creators can learn where the security flaws might be.
For example, "read scroll then rescue maiden" could be made to correspond to "send an email with a password re-set link, then accept a new password from the user"
while doing it the other way round, "rescue maiden then read scroll", could correspond to "let the user change her password, then send a validation link in email for the user to click in order to validate it".
One of these ways may have a terrible security flaw that no one has yet noticed, while the other way may be correct.
So by encouraging lots and lots of people to play the game, and seeing what ingenious ways people come up with to slay the dragon, feedback gets sent to the software engineering team about loopholes in the security protocol.
Perhaps you think I'm making this up. Well I'm not.
http://www.verigames.com/aboutUs (http://www.verigames.com/aboutUs)
The Problem
Formal Verification is the process of rigorously analyzing software to detect flaws that make programs vulnerable to exploitation. Performing this analysis requires highly skilled engineers with extensive training and experience. This makes the verification process costly and relatively slow.
The Proposed Solution
The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) Crowd Sourced Formal Verification (CSFV) program seeks to replace the intensive work done by the domain experts by greatly decreasing the skill required to do Formal Verification, and therefore allow more people (who do not need to be domain experts) to perform the analysis in a more efficient manner.
How might we achieve this? By creating fun and engaging games that represent the underlying mathematical concepts, we empower the non-experts to effectively do the work of the formal verification experts - simply by playing and completing the game objectives.
(http://zeta.forum4.org/pix/rogue.jpg)
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hello mr j,
i dont think you are making up it, things like this have been an around for and while -
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/support-us/play-to-cure-genes-in-space
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/video-game-cure-hiv.htm
realistically the problem is that games are just another entertainment business, so it all comes down to the bottom line. hollywood action movies could be designed to teach the audience latin, but they wont. the video games that have access to huge audiences (due to huge development and marketing budgets) are made by corporations that only care about making dollars.
funnily enough, it does seem an trend that developers release unfinished games or do beta tests with thousands of people, so the huge amount of crowdsourced information helps them finish the software. as there will always be people that find ways to break or exploit the software. while it took me close to 100 hours to beat ds2, there are videos on youtube of people beating it in around 20 minutes, without hacking or cheating. just very creative exploits that were eventually patched out.
including logic to solve problems just wouldnt happen due to the dollar driving every ounce of energy spent on development.
it does seem like it could be an good way to both solve problems and raise funds, maybe in an few decades after the new age of virtual reality kicks in.
mr x.
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Fascinating.
So if you and G had been playing the right video games you would both be fluent in Latin by now,
and video games could have saved Carlos Castaneda from misusing the word "cohort".
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hypothetically, it seems more likely an person would come to be very familiar with all latin words over time, fairly easily. in order to be fluent, the software would have to teach grammer and sentance structure, which i supposed could be done. if the "right" video games existed.
you will have to explain to me castaneda misuses of cohort, i dont get it.
mr x.
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:D
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...you will have to explain to me castaneda misuses of cohort, i dont get it.
mr x.
He consistently abuses the term as a plural in eagles gift and active side of infinity.
An almost unimaginably unacceptable profanity.
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are you saying that every time castanedas used the word cohort in the eagles gift or active side of infinity, he was not referrering to and ancient roman phalanx ?
or that when he used the word cohort it was false because there was never an group of warriors, just the insides of his own brian ?
by the way, welcome back mr merlin.
mr j, the recent discuss made me realize i know about as much about the video game industry as an milk drinker knows about being an dairy farmer, and i did some looking of things up.
on the day i looked things up, this video was released on the internet. i thought you might like it, if you dare to be an pirate.
http://movreel.com/j0lq61ojdgzv (have adblock installed in your chrome browser, click continue to video, click on "download link" in red text inside box under the video screen. play the file with "vlc" player.)
hello mr g, how are you ?
mr x.
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Zany coincidence coming up, I just got an email which says (when translated from italian)
Date: Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 12:21 PM
From: [email protected]
To: giulio*****@*****.com
Dear Giulio,
Thank you for your online pre-order.
This email message confirms your pre-order. Payment will be taken from your portfolio nearer the release date and and you will then receive an email confirming the purchase.
Il team di Sony Entertainment Network
Sony Network Entertainment Europe Limited
Details:
Customer name: someone (who I've never heard of)
Item: pre-order of Battlefield™ Hardline Deluxe Edition (Oggetto di gioco)
Expected release date: 24/10/2014 @ 12:00 AM
So what should I do?
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Maybe I didn't say enough to explain why it was a coincidence, but basically it was because I don't have anything to do with video games, and the moment I start talking about them here, along comes that email.
You might think that's not really much of a coincidence.
But the level has now deepened.
Because, I decided the best thing to do would be to reply to the message and tell them they had sent it to the wrong email address. But the email couldn't be replied to, instead it wanted me to log in to their system using my email address as login id. So I tried that. Next thing, as I didn't know the password, it offered to send a password re-set link to my email address! And did!! Without any security checking at all, along came another email containing a password re-set link.
So I tried saying I didn't want to re-set the password because I didn't have an account anyway. But it said I had only two choices, either re-set the password on my existing account or create a new account. So I tried creating a new account, with my email address as id, and it said I couldn't do that as I already had an account.
Now take a look back to what I was saying about security flaws in password protocols, and their link with video games, in post #36 in this thread.
I think this synchronicity is well up to Mr G's standards.
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It certainly is, especially since me and Mr X both pre-ordered our games. The spell checker says pre-order isn't a real word... is that true? Anyway, it was my first time pre-ordering. And I too worry about secure payments. Perhaps it is time for a dongle type of thing. It becomes so that it's natural, you go to the bank counter and they say: "Here's your new card, Sir... and don't forget your dongle!"
Hello Mr X, I finished DS2 in 113 exhilarating / exasperating hours. After that door closed, I felt no need for further torture... but I'll be back for more in DS3!
Can't rightly say why I didn't post. Didn't feel right, I suppose. At the time. I wanted to post yesterday to say I'm not having any more synchronicities. Then I had a synchronicity. Such as it is, it is.
Ciao!
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yes that was my first pre order too. in newgame+ i spent an lot of time as an sun-praiser, helping feeble cursed ones get past bosses like the lost sinner and the looking glass knight. funnily in the last two days i went back for more with the sunken king dlc.
well done beating it. compared to ds1 which was an 11/10 i thought it was about 8.5-9/10. but i cant tell if that is due to nostaglia coloured glasses or not.
an dongle would be nice, ive not had problems but i know people who get their card stolen an few times and year.
i too have not had syncs since after the start of the thread. i wondered if it was due to being hyper aware of syncs and therefore discarding lesser syncs due to analyzing the events more. but still, nothing significant to report. i wonder what is up with that.
what was the synchronicity you had ? and btw, there is already 3 new epsidoes of utopia season 2 (about to watch).
mr j, what if resetting the password blocked out the original person from their own account. i would probably look for some customer service from sony or ea. live chat service if you can find it. they would have the customers credit details and have more luck finding the person to fix the mistaken email.
i wonder what the full email address is and how many variations there can be. can you change one letter and still have the address make sense ?
what if someone you know saw this thread and sent you that game on purpose ?
why would someone preorder battlefield hardline ?
the mysteries continue.
mr x.
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Thank you, I'm going to wait for the series to complete then make a weekend of it ;).
Tuesday, my colleague who is also my special lady friend brought to work some pumpkin pie. It was delicious. It set off the memory of a children's show called Pumpkin Patch. The theme went:
"Pumpkins are tasty and very good to eat
Pumpkin pie is such a treat"
It was stuck on repeat in my head and I told her so. She laughed and said "sorry". After we ate she had somewhere to be and I had 30 minutes to kill. I wanted to read something interesting on the internet and I looked up Ernest Hemingway on Wikipedia. Someone gave The old man and the sea to my mom and I read it there two weeks back. I was a bit surprised that I really loved it. The Wikipedia page said:
He avoided complicated syntax. About 70 percent of the sentences are simple sentences—a childlike syntax without subordination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Hemingway
The words "simple sentences" was a link. I clicked it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_sentence
Go ahead. Try it.
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what if resetting the password blocked out the original person from their own account.
I've been worrying about the exact same thing and have no way of contacting the fellow, and the customer care contact forms at sony and ea do not work.
How about this:
***Emergency message to person who has been locked out of his account at Electronic Arts***
***Your password at Electronic Arts is now Enclair8***
Hopefully the person will google for "I've been locked out of my account" be led to this thread.
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hello mr g,
i went down that wiki rabbit hole, but first had to wiki syntax, subordination and then sentance.
i noticed the pumpkin pie part of the simple sentenaces, and i noticed the and and but part. i read that link thrice, and can say it was only those two thing that i noticed that i took away from it. it is funny, and genuinely annoying, but the pumpkin pie but and - was the only things that my dysfunctional brian could take away, and only due to context it was posted in. i am not the best at reading learning.
hemmingway certainly sounds interesting. i have not fully read that whole page but have enjoyed it so far.
so we currently have the pumpking pie sync, which has an chance of, but not necessarily, being an frequency illusion, and the password security sync. not bad syncs for the current burst of activity.
mr j i dont think your efforts with your google message is enough. i dont know about sony but if you cant access ea support then you didnt try enough. do you speak italian. the internet is an big annoying place, there would possibly be someone complaining about their pre order going missing somewhere. if you cant be bothered finding some random stranger and solving their problem, i wouldnt blame you.
as an side note, after following the euromajdan protests and watching it on live streams constantly for months, and being an person who hopes the best for palestinians, the past few weeks have been pretty depressing. humans are messed up.
mr x.
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Yeah, sorry about that. It was just the pumpkin pie bit and that now seems quite silly. I should have just stated what happened, not make you read through a bunch of links. I'm actually quite tired of the whole sync business. I'm going to write it all off as coincidence of the ordinary kind. For the time being.
humans are messed up.
It is so, but is it really all humans or is it just the traditional patriarchy that makes it so? By "patriarchy" I don't mean a system where men are in charge - I mean a system where some men are in charge. Some women even. And they conspire to retain and strengthen their power and privilege, humans be damned. Yes, I said it, it's a goddam conspiracy!
But we must accept, it is also a natural thing.
Common chimpanzees show deference to the alpha of the community by ritualized gestures such as bowing, allowing the alpha to walk first in a procession, or standing aside when the alpha challenges.
We are in an evolutionary alley, between animals and overmen. Was it Nietzsche... I'll look quickly:
"Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss...
What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end: what can be loved in man is that he is an overture and a going under...
We are that very transitional form that creationists deny.
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. And man shall be just that for the overman: a laughingstock or a painful embarrassment...
As a nerd, I am thankful that I was spared being genetically programmed to be an evil bastard. Evil bastards will have no place in%436q...................................[transmission lost]
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no sorry, i enjoyed the rabbit hole. it was interesrting.
thanks for that point of view, nice. it is like how we are to early to be the humans who explore space. hopefully overman isnt an dick.
i am very honestly tempted to just not look. it seems like the best idea. it is not possible to be concerned or disgusted by things if i dont know they exist. it may sound shallow but there is no benefiet to being concerned with things one has no control over. that makes sense to me but sort of seems morally wrong.
i am not an nerd, or anything else, just an person. i like how nerds have specific and well examined interests, i wish i liked anything that much.
if there was an world wide vote to release an anti douchebag janus virus, i would vote yes.
according the forum time, i checked the forum just after an hour after you posted. when i clicked on the thread the forum didnt work, it was down for some reason. the transmission didnt make it through for and while.
mr x.
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I'm speechless. Hard to believe that the majority of people feel that it's desirable to live in constant fear and/or hate. I refuse to believe that people are like this.
Clearly this state of affairs benefits some people. I don't buy that it's just the way shit goes down. I don't mean the illuminati or some such bodice, it's just entitled motherfuckers.
Forgive the language.
Re: Nerds. I don't mean nerd in the good sense, I'm way too uncool for that. Nerdness too has been hijacked by entitled MFs. They carved out a niche there too. No really - you must be a fan of a certain type of comic or movie or game. You must attend certain happenings. Prescribed T-shirts, collector's items, posable figurines. Obscure multi genre "mash up" T-shirts strictly for "those in the know". Cool tattoos. Piercings. Chicks that act "nerdy" but are perpetually out of your league. "Ubergeeks". Big Bang Theory types - caricatures in stead of people. I denounce you all!
(Probably because I secretly think that eventually my anti-geek sentiments will become the new cool, entitling me to "What I've Got Coming To Me".)
I think overmen by definition won't be dicks. It serves no purpose. I've been thinking about what overmen will be like. Next post, I think.
PS Please no Utopia spoilers ;) - Sorry about that Hannibal spoiler from a few months back.
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Entitled MFs: the musical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D05T5HXPxpg
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In gaming news from El Reg, (emphasis added)
The US military held a series of online war games to pit reservist hackers against its active-duty cyber-warriors – and the results weren't pretty for the latter, we're told.
"The active-duty team didn’t even know how they’d been attacked. They were pretty much obliterated," said one Capitol Hill staffer who attended, Navy Times reports.
During the games, which took place in a compound at US Cyber Command (CYBERCOM) headquarters at Fort Meade, serving members of the military's online task force struggled to defend their network against attacks by several units of reservists, many of whom have day jobs as IT security specialists. The final results remain classified.
Since 2009 CYBERCOM has been training about 6,000 full-time soldiers to protect US networks against attack and to carry out offensive operations on overseas networks. Based on the above report of these latest war games, CYBERCOM still has a lot of work to do; the results may provoke a rethink of how the nation's cyber-warriors are trained and assembled.
While the military is ploughing billions into cyber-warrior training, it's only to be expected that people working outside the military have more infosec experience than those in the armed forces, and be more aware of the very latest defense and offense techniques.
But there are other problems. In May FBI Director James Comey came under fire for telling the White Collar Crime Institute's conference that the agency must consider relaxing its drug testing rules and other recruitment policies if it's to get the best online security talent.
“I have to hire a great workforce to compete with those cyber-criminals and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview,” he said.
He later rescinded his comments, saying he was joking.
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hello mr g,
yes no doubt some people benefit. bullets cost money.
entitled mfers is an intersted idea. it is is easy to identify them in whatever area.
nerds that are too uncool are not not cool. cool is extremely subjective. i personally dont see nerds that way. if some one is social awkward that is not classically cool, if that same person can build an robot, that is very cool. and really, who cares about coolness. the fonz was meant to be cool, but these days if he walked in the room and said "ehhy" he would be an douche.
i think if you examined everything, you would find entitled mfers in everyway. if your hobby was skidoos, there would be people telling you you are doing it wrong. and they wouldnt even be true skidoo fans. just entitled mfers.
i do think your antigeek sentiments will become the new cool, it is almost certain. but i dont agree with the getting what is coming to you part. for sure, we will all get death at some point, but anything else is not granted.
i would like to hear about overmen.
no utopia spoilers have been given, and no worries about hannibal ones.
mr x.
ps. mr j, the fbi guy was probably high when he said that.
ppss.
nice video mr g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfiv3bylZGg
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SINCHRONITY _ a sever one:
same day (yesterday) when i have written in the other thread:
"yea, i'm teddy-bear and starved for attention..."
paraphrasing my previous posting:
"sorry i'm coming here so - how did you call it? teddy-bear? tad peeved - no greatings, no demonstration of good manners..."
[my inner cousin: "Mom, stop Polishing!"] (and is there a reason, grammatical or otherwise, for the capitalization?)[/i]
- descending from a bus just at dusk, i bend to get my lugage out of the trunk - one item was not visible first - someone moved it behind a pole. digging to get it, something rolled out of the trunk to the ground - a uge teddy-bear!
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bullshit! the 2 glittering sentences in my posting above are NOT any Freudian synchronicity! this was actually NOT a inner cousin - this one was my OUTER cusin!
edit: what? i stare at my las paragrapht not understanding - than i returned to sustaind re action thread and - wala! a new post was posted, saying:
I am sorry, but I am unable to think of Victor Sanchez without thinking of Dirty Sanchez. It is really quite disturbing, I don't know what Freud would have made of this. ... I definitely won't post a link to that on youtupe, especially with ladies around. That said, Tally-ho, tally-ho. ... Ms Z, devourer of pussycats. There's Freud again, spinning in his grave.
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as a minor psync, here is an story, from outside f4.
in the past few days i got back into pc gaming, after having no interest since april of this year.
i loaded steam and started playing some puzzle games. dark souls 2 scholar of the first sin edition was on sale, i bought it.
i looked at my friends list and yesterday i thought, mr [redacted] should buy a xbox one controller and play dark souls with me. we have only spoken a few times in 2015.
today, i chatted with mr [redacted] and discovered the day before mr [redacted] bought and xbox one controller, with the intent to play some dark souls. there was more to that sync, but just saying it weird how spot on some things can be.
that is a simple story. there were far more layers to it than what is being reported. the whole thing of syncs happening more frequently when involved with f4 is a real thing. i wonder how they effect things in our lives other than forum4 specific topics.
x.
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Another game related coincidence... I was thinking of posting in moonlight thread, trying to think of units of psi. It seems to me that the one constant in psi is that it involves a psyche - a mind. But I think it involves types of mind (or consciousness or awareness take your pick) that is slightly elevated above the day to day mind. So I was thinking of levels of consciousness and looking for examples and for some reason thought of Dragon Ball Z... I seem to recall there was lots of leveling up involved, and they controlled some kind of Chi or something. A minute later I opened Steam and guess what, full screen ad for 50% off Dragon Ball Xenoverse.
About Witcher 3, I decided not to try it, seems like too much of a time investment. I played Dragon Age 3 and really wanted to enjoy it, but there is just too much going on. I didn't even finish the campaign. The mountains of work I was talking about was marking. It took me about 60 hours, I bet I wouldn't even have made a dent in the Witcher 3... probably would have spent that much time picking herbs. I'm getting too old for that kind of thing. I also realized that I'm getting too old for comic book movies. It took me four sessions to watch Avengers 2, constantly thinking "What is this about?"
At the moment I'm just doing the occasional lap in Project Cars, but I might be persuaded to get Just Cause 3 at the end of the year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1q7wY0koE
But I probably won't finish that either.
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hello g,
yes i saw that add, part of the same sale as ds2.
i dont know much about dragonball aside from super saiyan being a thing.
i generally understand - "100 hours of gameplay!" is no longer a selling point to me. before i play a game i look up how long it takes to finish it. the less time the better.
i skipped inquisition, witcher and gta5, although one day i will play gta5. i looked at some twitch streams for each game, just wasnt feeling it. hopefully the coming virtually reality hype might reinvigorate gaming.
have seen avengers 2, i can remember ultron did something and the avengers stopped him from doing the thing.
played and had fun in just cause 1 and just cause 2, never got even close to finishing either.
playing new kings quest and brothers - a tale of two sons at the moment. simple, pleasant, makes me feel like a genius when i solve the puzzles.
all that said, when dark souls 3 comes out i will with great joy seek misery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqf3EZQwkLE
mr x.
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a very serious - not to say severe - synchronicity for you, ixos:
i had some books where the whole area was burned.
a plastic box with books - it's corner melted; books intact.
other box got more or less papier mâché. all my Castaneda books! which i promised someone!
(water, not fire)
this one
(http://www.booksefer.co.il/files/catalog/media/4efcde623842a61687f920dee1bdcf33.jpg)
- I WAS THE ASSISTANT OF MENGELE AT CONCENTRATION CAMP AUSCHWITZ -
on my list of " to look at it before give away" - survived.
your avatar! (i know it's from maiden avatar - yet, same!)
any connection?
edit: to correct "ASISTANY" back to ASSISTANT (in the book's name)
while doing it i discoverd some surplus size and font bbcodes seen on posting window and not otherwise, not effecting preview.
eccept all spaces between lines doubled (with no bbcodes)
weird.
when the weird becomes daily reality...
find a procedure to correct it!
i'll copy- past it somewhere before correcting it.
so it make this post also ~purge round 14.~~
ok - i opened a new thread, entitled "purge count", at τεχνική forum. http://www.forum4.org/index.php?topic=71.0
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such a depressing book.
i planned to translate a quote (i have it in Hebrew), but now i go to sleep.
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Message for when you wake up.
The book looks quite unappetizing, how did it get to be on your shelves?
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Message for when you wake up. The book looks quite unappetizing, how did it get to be on your shelves?
it is one of the last remnants from my late dad's big library, and though unappetizing indeed...
appetizing or vomitizing, fact or fiction some truths (with n corners) are worth learning.
at this "age of conspiracies", many are concerning Nazis - allegedly ridiculous claims like - we {=Earthians} are currently subdued to a secret Nazi empire - a fact kept successfully secret due to no chance anybody would believe such idiotic nonsense.
not can be, right?
then i found this remark to a facebook petition against chem-trails (THEY exist - i saw one above Jerusalem BEFORE ever reading about them): "a conspiracy? the holocaust too was a conspiracy, and now we have evidence that it really occurred!"
here is a story from a dOCumentary book about Ghetto Warsha revolt:When the Nazis began forcing passersby into cattle wagons, the different new Jewish nationalist movements were toO busy with the differences between them to be bothered uniting and fight. eventually they decided to send someone out, to follow the railroads and see what's up. after lot of internal (and some external) struggle, that man completed his mission: viewed Auschwitz, it's gas chambers and Incinerators, came back and reported his commanders.
they didn't believe him. didn't believe it was possible. it took another year - until the Nazis began blocking parts of the ghetto as it got emptied - before they united and gave some fight.
(sss)
if we are to believe all those ridiculous conspiracies, w'ere not at the eve of another holocaust - we're at the eve of at least 5 or 6 different ones.
we can assume 2 - 0r 3 - or 4 - are disinformation spread to veil the real one...
oops. impossible. the impossible never happens. and vice versa.
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font size changed spontaneously, failed to get it back to normal or at least readable.
maybe the impossible IS possible after all.
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let me try again display the text which got too tiny to notice... probably done by those false factions who want you to believe that nazis are still on-charge and can interfere with the tiniest font - to cover for the fact that it is the IL\casarian gangsters\Rothschild\club 300\ISIS\Jesus Criste\TheHolyFuck\fill the empty space\ who did!
here is a story from a documentary book about Ghetto Warsha revolt: when the Nazis began forcing passersby into cattle wagons, the different new Jewish nationalist movements were toO busy with the differences between them to be bothered uniting and fight
eventually they decided to send someone out, to follow the railroads and see what's up. after lot of internal (and some external) struggle, that man completed his mission: viewed Auschwitz, it's gas chambers and Incinerators, came back and reported his commanders. they didn't believe him. didn't believe it was possible. it took another year - until the Nazis began blocking parts of the ghetto as it got emptied - before they united and gave some fight.
if we are to believe all those ridiculous conspiracies, w'ere not at the eve of another holocaust - we're at the eve of at least 5 or 6 different ones.
we can assume 2 - 0r 3 - or 4 - are disinformation spread to veil the real one...
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i was sitting in the sun, near a public play garden, reading that depressing book (to find a quote to post here) when i heard a mechanical kind of squeak, looked at the direction - the loudspeakers on top of the neighbor public shelter woke.
that was all.
quite unnerving.
i never noticed this p.a. system before.
a coincidence?
a Pareidolia?
a synchronicity?
the quote, later.
nana tov
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the mess before the tiding up is here
http://www.forum4.org/index.php?topic=71.0 reply
i attach the printscreens here as well, they are interesting.
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P 112-113
… tracks loaded with 70-80 women entering the crematorium at evening were a frequent sight. I got used to the arrival of women, from the rump for extermination. Those are women who didn't pass the selection . They are brought from the shacks and the hospitals . Since some of them are living at the katzet for years, at least many months, they know very well what is awaiting them here. When the cars enter the yard horrible screams are heard, they know as do we that there is no escape from their fate.
i can't see those daily sights. At these times I'm trying not to be nearby.
…this evening i have no luck. … I have to decipher urgently the suicide of an S.S.oberscharführer. The corpse was sent from Glibetz. A military judge, his secretary and S.S. man were present. Around 7:00 I finished my work, began dictating the secretary the report of the findings. Suddenly, a track's rattle. This time it's loaded men.
The autopsy room's 2 big windows are facing the crematorium's front yard. Its miserable passengers are very quiet. From this I conclude that they are brought from hospitals, after selection. They have no force to scream, not even to descend the tracks by themselves. The S.S. guards yell and push them. In vain, none move. The track's driver loses his patience, returns to the cabin and turns on the engine. The track's huge box starts lifting and pouring the men, as though they were stones, or sand. The men, half dead anyway, falling face down on the cement floor. When they hit the floor, a horror scream omitting off their throats.
A blood curding scene. The military judge also has to hear the screams. He addresses me: what is going on there? He approaches the window. I explain to him what is happening. Seems he is not used to such sights. Leaving the window he says: nevertheless such things should not be done.
The zondercommando taking off the condemned's cloths and pile them at the center of the yard. They are set in front of oberscharführer Musfild. Today he is "on duty" at the "job" of shooting at the nape.
P 118-119
The time came for the extermination of the Gypsy camp which count 4500 people. The instructions were the same as at the Czech camp: close the shacks, increase the guard accompanied by blood dogs. The Gypsies are set in rows. They get ratios of bread and sausage. 3 ratios per person, provisions for 3 days. The Gypsies too, 2 years tenants at the camp, believed they were being moved to another camp. A simple but common way to deceive the victims. It occurs to nobody that they are led to the crematoriums. If so – they think – what for the provisions?
Don't misunderstand, not pity… but simple cold calculation: they want to prevent disorder and chaos, so that the guard – comparatively small numbered – would be able to lead the Gypsies to the gas chambers.
… at the morning the fire was already extinguished. At the crematorium's yard ash was piled, the remnants of the Gypsy camp. The corpses of dosen pairs of twins were not cremated. On their chests Mengele wrote, by his own hand, before killing them: Z.S. this marked those who were to be autopsied after being murdered. In Mengele's twin corpses collection nearly all ages are represented, from newborn to 16. They are laying on the floor of the mortuary. Children with different shades of hair and skin. Maching brother to brother takes maximal concentration and a special attention. I have to put lot of thinking into this job. Any mistake or error on my side, could cancel – in Mengele's opinion - the "scientific value" of the criminal doctor's research. Since the twin research was his favorite issue, he would have not forgive my error, would have command to execute me at once.
Just few days ago I set with Mengele at my desk. We browsed the twins' data processed so far. On the blue cover of one of the files he found a stain of fat. Sometimes during an autopsy I need the files. And so happened that one of them got stained. Mengele gave me a murderous look and asked: how could you handle so rudely those file, which I cherish so lovingly?
Mengele pronounced "love".
I couldn't answer him. I was silent.
P124-125
On one occasion I performed an autopsy on an elder man, and found in his gal bladder beautiful cristals. I knew Mengele was an enthusiast collector of such things. I washed, dried and put then in a wide neck bottle. on the bottle I have written the personal details of the source of the crystals, along with my diagnosis. The next day, during the routin round, I gave him the bottle. Of course, he liked it very much. Whilr rolling the bottle in all directions, he asked me: "do you know the balad on the great commander, volenshtein?"
Though the question was inappropriate at that environment, I answered: "I know volenshtein's story, the ballade, no." he smiled, and resited a verse, freely translated:
The property of the volenshteins
Consisting of More gal bladder crystals then gems.
Seeing that I follow him closely, he went on to recite the rest of the ridiculing ballade. Dr Mengele was in a very good mood. I decided daringly: to address him with a personal request, about what occupied my mind since I errived. I asked him to enable me ti seaech for my wife and daughter and see them. Once I said it, I got scared from my acceptional daring. But what was said could not be taken back. He gave me an amazed look.
Are you married and have a child?
Yes, sair, I replied excitedly. I have a wife and a 15 years old daughter.
And you think they are here?
I think so, because 3 months ago, when we arrived, my sir sent them to the right.
They could be moved somewhere else.
I'm thinking about the crematorium's chimneys, through which they could be delivered "somewhere else".
Mengele sitting at the table, I stand at his side. He seems to be pondering. Shortly later he says:
I'll give you a "psirshine" – a permission to move among the camps to look for your family. But – " and here he put a finger on his lips, looking at me, I noticed the threat in his look.
- I anderstand, I told him, and thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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lem'e try something... if i make printscreens first thing - will the bbcode keep changing? or shall i be able to correct it by sheer deleting the BBCODE SPAMS - as before?~~~
printscreens attached/(at the thread "purge count - see link above) thus this is the corrected text.
but interesting items i might add at the end.
or other wise bold.
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the above quotes, notice, are no conspiracy. no myth. no fiction. this is History. well documented.
the following quot, though, is pure conspiracy. unscientific, undocumented (as far as we know), mythical mystic legends.
if they will ever become History... "immortalized" in books, testimonies and museums... will it also mean it's too late? as was the case with Mengele and the holocaust? edit: this will not be! the record will be that of The Beast's destruction. he will disintegrate and be blown towards the eagle's beak, along with all who cooperated with him.
not including those who were cooperating while awaiting opportunity to cause his destruction.
if it was undecided yet, if YOU are undecided?
intent is what matters.
decide now!
or decide at the moment of truth.
in the price of your miserable life if necessary.
and no one can promise you a painless death.
not even if you go for the disintegration.
this deal is over and done!
you can try reach the GRANDESSA! pathaway
but don't forget -
you cross this threshold on your own peril!
if you, like Dr miclos nyiszli (the writer of "I WAS THE ASISTANT OF MENGELE AT CONCENTRATON CAMP AUSCHWITZ) never bothered to try any sabotage - took risks just for yourself and your personal loved ones - even when death was imminent all your concern was avoiding death and pain -
you'll be better off (in my opinion) being disintegrated and blown toward that beak.
it will save you lot and lot of more pain.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1484234_1099043743447945_7463107978350203891_n.jpg?oh=03bc164a3d970d8c4d3c157c5f120529&oe=570A4E31&__gda__=1460096749_d8c39e6616d6a024f07ca7e925f654a5
so - the quote:
http://thepromiserevealed.com/2015-november-20-cobra-and-red-dragon-interview/ (http://thepromiserevealed.com/2015-november-20-cobra-and-red-dragon-interview/)
] David Wilcock talks here http://sitsshow.blogspot.ro/2015/04/david-wilcock-major-update-history-of.html (http://sitsshow.blogspot.ro/2015/04/david-wilcock-major-update-history-of.html) about “the Elders”(The old ones) ???
“Some of the Dracos made deals with humans from our past [about 13,000 years ago in some cases] giving them immortality tech (Mono Atomic Gold?). and some people on Earth are 13,000 years old.
These ‘old one’s’ have a super accelerated metabolism. The old ones or ‘the parents’, are above the 13 bloodlines of Illuminati. They go into something that looks like a sarcophagus [like from the movie Stargate or Underworld], like a vampire legend. It is a vampiric process, they have to feed on living people. The real method does not involve blood, but much more grotesque, and the victims must consent to the process or it won’t work.Cut their hand open, the old ones, and it just closes back up again. They have stargates, space ships, etc. that they keep to themselves, their underlings do not know about. The old one’s keep the 13 families unaware of much of their true history, pushing a false religion on to them. They go to the families and get people to willingly give themselves up to the old ones, which claim to need this to ‘protect the families.
This soft disclosed symbolically in movies as vampiric stories.
The old one’s eyes are strange, large and can see very well in darkness.
You can kill them, but have to separate the brain from the spine. Like in the movie Highlander.
The ‘old ones’ or parents (humans that were given immortality tech by the Draco’s) are the heads of the 13 bloodlines. The Cabal Hierarchy is as follows: Old Ones (about 20 beings) > Trustees > Operatives (many more operatives then the other 2 groups) > the 13 families or houses called the Fathers.
The old one’s prophecy states they are expecting that there will be a massive event on Earth, where they will be exposed, surrender and be defeated by the people who will then behead them. But their dark lords (custodian gods or Draco’s) will return and resurrect them after this. They believe that they have to be caught, go on trial and die before their Dark Lords will come to resurrect them. The old ones have had spacecraft and access to Stargates the whole time, hiding this from the Illuminati families or the Fathers. But due to recent events, the underlings now know they were not told about the tech and are very angry”
one of the comments to one of "cobra's monthly interviews - a routine new-age bullshit? cobra's followeres are awaiting "the even", when "positive ETs" will, so "the promise" states, save them from "the cabals" and such, and then 3 waves of peliadans will arrive, take the current volunteers up to heaven, and will bring them back "assended", in there "reinbow bodies", whatever those be. then earth will become a 4 dimentions planet (???) -next will come "the evacuation".
meanwhile they help the saviors by weekly meditations for love; light, compassion, and merging with "the one.
the comment:
http://thepromiserevealed.com/2015-november-20-cobra-and-red-dragon-interview/ (http://thepromiserevealed.com/2015-november-20-cobra-and-red-dragon-interview/)
November 28, 2015
Has Cobra addressed what the ‘Hidden Hand’ has said ? If so – post link? When Cobra talks about ascension it seems like everybody makes it to a better world? ‘Hidden hand’ could be disinfo but states otherwise … anybody care to comment ??? Quote from ‘hidden hand’ below:
During this Ascension, there will be a three way split for those Souls inhabiting Earth. Those of the predominantly Negative Polarity, will accompany us as we Graduate through the Negative (or Service to Self) Harvest. We (Lucifer) will Create a new 4th Density Earth, based on the Negative Self Service Polarity. We must ‘work off’ our own part of the Negative Karmic effect incurred from all the Negativity created on this planet. Once we have done so, we will be released to once again assume our place as Sixth Density Guardians and Teachers of Wisdom throughout the Galaxy.Those of the predominantly Positive Polarity (Love and Light) will Ascend to a beautiful new 4th Density Earth, where you will begin to work upon your learning and demonstrating of Love and Compassion. It will be a very beautiful and “Golden” Age. The 4th Density begins to open you up to your True Powers as a unique individualized aspect of The One Infinite Creator. You will perform works and wonders of the like that the one you call “Jesus” promised you would do “and even greater things than these”. It will be a very magical time for you.
For the majority of Humans on the earth who could be considered shall we say “luke warm”, they will experience a period of (what will feel ‘ecstatic’) zero-point time, where you feel totally at One with The Creator, giving you an encouraging reminder and glimpse of who you really are, before the veil of forgetfulness once again descends upon you, and you will be transported to another 3rd Density planet (a kind of ‘Earth Replica’), to continue working upon yourselves and learning that life here is all about making choices.
now that i think about it..
1. the earth replica i heared about when, during my vision quest, i had a conversation with earth. she told me she would rather die then be split into clone-prisons.
(http://spiritualitydiscussiongroup.yuku.com/reply/7902/vision-quest#reply-7902) (search "earth" on that page to go directly to that topic)
surprise! i hardly remember this story, which i never understood and never fitted into any picture i had from history\what is possible and what is fiction - but some who messed with me mentally in the summer after my daughter's suicide - during this fight i had a vision of a star-gate like in star treck moveys - a weel with pained symbols on the ground - something about the hanged-man tarot card - the story behind that card - i never understood it, i still don't, i'll have to re-consider it - i'll come back to you when - if - i manage that.
anyway - Mengele is the link between solid history and dubious conspiracies.
some "super soldiers" claim he ran the schools in England and America to where they where taken at age 7-8, where they passed some horrors which makes the holocaust look sissy in comparism
other testimonies place him at the head of the satan cult in America which made children into sex slaves from age 6, for politicians, scientists, milliners, all the influential and powerful.
sofollowing is another testimony from intimate acquaintance with the same Mengele:
http://reflectionsinthenight.com/child_pornography.htm (http://)
i remember Mrs. Hildebrand's friend, who I later discovered looked exactly like Joseph Mengele, right down to the space between his front teeth. I believe they were one and the same. I met him around 1950. … I remember when he entered a room all eyes focused in his direction; his neediness, desperation, giving rise to sadistic urges to pinch or hold so hard it hurt, he grabbed your attention. His self importance dwarfed everyone else that was present. He was on a mission to save mankind with his work, and no one could accomplish this but him. He was there to correct the mistakes of others. And I was one of the mistakes. I had not been properly Alpha Programmed, which is the cults general program to create a follower that would kill or die for the cause. I didn't like knives and would do neither. Before he came to town, no one else seemed to care. I was, after all, Beta Programmed. It just went to prove how important he was, and that others could not be trusted.
I remember Mrs. Hildebrand's friend handing me a knife. He wanted me to use it to kill a chicken. … An intense psychological struggle began, his will verses mine. He grabbed at my arms painfully, then the chicken, white feathers flapping wildly, he strangled the chicken with his bare hands. We moved on to his next task. I was ordered to cut myself. I was not going to cut myself! Why should I become one of them? … Perhaps it was time to leave the body. It's hard to program someone when they keep passing out, leaving the body behind. It was my strategy. If I was not present what could they do?
… No bad deed goes unpunished. My waist length hair was ordered cut and all my meager possessions removed. Isn't that what they did at Auschwitz? … I felt steps from the ovens. And I was well aware of who I was dealing with, having seen many…pictures of the Holocaust.
end quote. she has one mistake i guess: it's not mankind he was busy saving. something else.
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interesting items - which where increased, decreased or changed in a curious way:
1. http://thepromiserevealed.com/2015-november-20-cobra-and-red-dragon-interview/ (http://thepromiserevealed.com/2015-november-20-cobra-and-red-dragon-interview/)
2. the urls about red dragon so very mixed with spam bccodes i doubt they survived my purge. hope they are still available somewhere else.
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this was purged before, when i got it re-posted in a normal font-size - yet, new spam bbcodes in the "modify" box.
meaning... printscreens.
o good! i left it on preview - didn't post it yet - so i leave the double last paragragh as is. (didnt notice it so i didn't printscreen it - as written in the twin post at the thread "purge count".)
the lines that misteriousely got too tiny to read:
[url=http://reflectionsinthenight.com/child_pornography.htm I remember Mrs. Hildebrand's friend, who I later discovered looked exactly like Joseph Mengele, right down to the space between his front teeth. I believe they were one and the same. I met him around 1950. … I remember when he entered a room all eyes focused in his direction; his neediness, desperation, giving rise to sadistic urges to pinch or hold so hard it hurt, he grabbed your attention. His self importance dwarfed everyone else that was present. He was on a mission to save mankind with his work, and no one could accomplish this but him. He was there to correct the mistakes of others. And I was one of the mistakes. I had not been properly Alpha Programmed, which is the cults general program to create a follower that would kill or die for the cause. I didn't like knives and would do neither. Before he came to town, no one else seemed to care. I was, after all, Beta Programmed. It just went to prove how important he was, and that others could not be trusted. I remember Mrs. Hildebrand's friend handing me a knife. He wanted me to use it to kill a chicken. … An intense psychological struggle began, his will verses mine. He grabbed at my arms painfully, then the chicken, white feathers flapping wildly, he strangled the chicken with his bare hands. We moved on to his next task. I was ordered to cut myself. I was not going to cut myself! Why should I become one of them? … Perhaps it was time to leave the body. It's hard to program someone when they keep passing out, leaving the body behind. It was my strategy. If I was not present what could they do? … No bad deed goes unpunished. My waist length hair was ordered cut and all my meager possessions removed. Isn't that what they did at Auschwitz? … I felt steps from the ovens. And I was well aware of who I was dealing with, having seen many…pictures of the Holocaust.
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the mass BBCODE SPAMM in this thread is treated by profationals here
http://www.forum4.org/index.php?topic=68.30
as for Mengele:
another testimony, Michael Prince\James Casbold's (in his book "burried alive - available on-line): said Mengele was an authority figure in the school for super-soldiers he was sent to by the educational authorities of his country, England, at age 8. In addition to ritual sex abuse by fathers, as Mauri testified, these kid's personality were splat by means of trauma - caused by nearly lethal electric shocks - into several "altars". the non-original personalities, not remembered from the original one, can be operated by means of a password {that is: each "altar" has an operator who calls, say a password to make him switch "altar",and tell him stuff like "fetch weapon from that place, kill that person, return the weapon and go home". The "main "altar would not know about it.
At age 30 the altars start "bleeding" memories – usually the persons are killed. But few survived to tell.
of course, rarely someone believed them.
me too - i didn't belieVe this crazy stuff
until i encountered testimony of some i know very well.
(like Mauri... though i never met her.)
mistakes i found in this post: (too late to tell whether they are mine or... not)
~profationals instead of professionals
~beliee instead of believe
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wasnt the list of mistakes much longer? or is there another on other post? i think the letter, but am not sure.
edited twice by me
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hello mr g,
no sync to report, but just continuing on from earlier discussion.
it didnt take long to go from innocent little puzzle games to, ahem, mature content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpx_nanpIfU
anyway, after lots of that, and a bit of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsbchv0i3xU
very fun in coop, but as a mature person my current jam is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWIJ-H-WxI
(you have mentioned flight sims before, if you have access to flight sim peripherals and even vr tech, elite would be extra sweet.)
its been a while since hearing from you, would be nice to have a check in to see if you are good.
if not, i hope you are good and have a good new year. next year i would like to try an experiment to see if we could make a sync happen. in some way produce a sync. as it stands i have no idea of how to go about trying that, but still something to think about.
mr x.
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X: its been a while since hearing from you, would be nice to have a check in to see if you are good.
G, i join X's request - can you afford showing up as much as to say your'e good? edit: i mean - that you're OK...
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This is addressed to you, Mr X, but I hope everyone will join the conversation.
... I felt that something strange had just occurred. Why did he call me? Why that specific game and why did he get the numbering wrong, something that specifically bothered me that day in the toy store with his father. I knew something was wrong.
This was a friday. That saturday night he would crash the car he was too young to drive into a tree and pass away. With no identification on him, his dad would only discover this that tuesday.
i was re-reading that one for some strange reason, when my on-line radio kicked in:
love, I don't like to see so much pain
so much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away
it's Petr Gabriel's "in your eyes" - here is the whole lyrics:
"In Your Eyes"
love I get so lost, sometimes
days pass and this emptiness fills my heart
when I want to run away
I drive off in my car
but whichever way I go
I come back to the place you are
all my instincts, they return
and the grand facade, so soon will burn
without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside
in your eyes
the light the heat
in your eyes
I am complete
in your eyes
I see the doorway to a thousand churches
in your eyes
the resolution of all the fruitless searches
in your eyes
I see the light and the heat
in your eyes
oh, I want to be that complete
I want to touch the light
the heat I see in your eyes
love, I don't like to see so much pain
so much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away
I get so tired of working so hard for our survival
I look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive
and all my instincts, they return
and the grand facade, so soon will burn
without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside
in your eyes
the light the heat
in your eyes
I am complete
in your eyes
I see the doorway to a thousand churches
in your eyes
the resolution of all the fruitless searches
in your eyes
I see the light and the heat
in your eyes
oh, I want to be that complete
I want to touch the light,go
the heat I see in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
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i guess there's more to it then i know myself at the moment.
oh again - 01:16 my local time! why not sleep ho!
so i drop some other quotes i intended to search and answer - sleeep!
in front of you, ten o'clock, shoot! fire to storm, roger!
P.S. why is it upside down this time? again?