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Title: a nervous hue of pink
Post by: tally-ho! on 24 June 2015 09:32:14 PM

a nervous hue of pink? - a grammatical particle? a  robot? a program? a vacum cleaner?

I want to know once and for all - who are you, edith, the masked and gloved editor and deliter of my posts?

i'm mad - i fell for it again! mannaged to open The Cat in The Hat - piece of cake! put the link for PG registered version, got carried away  to ramble some more - click! - yes, forgot to copy again - and here goes another item to the garbage!

listen, edith -

enough is enough is enough is enough!

don't you ever spoil again any of my honest work!

or else!

i'll have my work, my recreation, my communication, my life and my love!

and  my family and my Friends!

i'll have my path with heart!

stay out of my way.

if you can't - too bad for you.



edited once by me to return the R to the path with heart

Title: a [missed] second is a full-fledged world?
Post by: tally-ho! on 02 July 2015 12:24:54 PM

is this going to work?
no, it didn't.
or not yet?

red lines. [as if all words miss-spelled]
clicked again(at chrom's menu) "use this language (american English) for spell check"

same red lines.
British English?

interesting! returning to the google chrome setting page (opened in a new window - not my idea, but accepted) it was as i left it, on american English.
but on the list of languishes, which i saw few seconds ago, "British English" was replaced with "English. clicking "use this language for spell checking yields "this language cannnot be used for spellchecking (see the attached print screen)

but returning to the tab of "post a reply in which i'm typing now, the red lines were gone! reduced to words with mistakes! (more mistakes than usual with me)

i had no much  clue what i was about to write in this freshly opened topic, my assumptions proved (so far) fat-fetched (a poem? something with dew drops being a full world?)

(something to do with fractal attributes? which dew drops have as well as... o well!)
(clicking "post" got "this page is not available - the connection is timed out. and AGAIN i didn't copy-past it anywhere! clicked arrow back, copy-pasted it into doc. let's see what clicking "Post" will be this time.)
Repeated,  as before.
Forgot to copy-pst the last new lines. I will now (including this one) (AND the link to the un-send post
http://www.forum4.org/index.php?action=post;board=4.0 (http://www.forum4.org/index.php?action=post;board=4.0)

+ the new one http://www.forum4.org/index.php?action=post;board=4.0  (http://www.forum4.org/index.php?action=post;board=4.0)
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So shall I go change firework definitions (if I'll ever find it?) 9I WILL, HOUGH IT MIGHT TAKEAN HOUR OR 2) and declare I don't want to use a proxy server (which as far as I know I don't use?)
Nah, let me try post it in existing thread.

Title: Re: a [missed] second is a full-fledged world?
Post by: âspen on 02 July 2015 02:01:35 PM

I was looking at some web pages with names like "16 things you could do with your leap second" or "21 more ways to get the most out of your precious leap second".

I liked the suggestion which said "visit Wales".

Title: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: tally-ho! on 03 July 2015 03:18:14 PM

(the title is my late dad's favorite ze'ev Jabotinsky quote)

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X: french shamans,

no - knut is no shaman.  the title he sports is "elder".
is it ok with indian ("native american") traditional procedures? Well… liminal, IMO.

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jojola,

he IS a shaman, his work is excellent – when he calls the spirits to protect your circle, you are protected. though foreign influences slip his attention. new age chants, vegetarian meals in the camp…   
 

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what do they offer you that you cannot provide yourself ?

Though my own tribal tradition is intact, potentially that is,  my tribe assembly, the Saraf, is unorganized, null, on earth by now, so all services are not functional. Most of the time I do my work on my own – public ceremonies i perform mostly by "hit and run", edit: personal ceremonies of climbing a hill i did many times on my own. (like vision quest, they require some  arduous stuff - edit: my personal version is -3 days fasting while  hiking to find appropriate hill.) for my vision quest i needed the services of a good functional shaman, from a real tribe - fortunately i found  Joel Jojola's invitation.

what i couldn't provide myself thus got other's aid:
(Joel jojola's)
1. circles

as a Lakota medicine man[=shaman] explained to black elk: you can't perform edit: accomplish a vision unless you have a circle - the other tribe member's acceptance and support. this is the source of power for anything done in a tribe, or any group for that matter.
my experience as a kind of guerrilla warrior: you can't do anything without a circle. thus often the first step for any action is -  "circles work", creating circles while preventing opposite circles from being closed.
this is not the place to elaborate on this - let's just say, the high performance of a tribe is circles based. circles are crucial to a visionary as much as votes are crucial to a politician.
i needed the solid support of a functional working procedure for recruiting circles - one that is not an outlow like mine.

2. protection. i crucially needed the protecting circle Joel created around each vision seeker -   at that time, i couldn't have possibly stand the attacks without it. Something to do with a change of meta-earth law which I only guess? -  thank you again, dear Joel! 
3. (both) opportunity to relate to (more or less) remarkable people without commitment - which would have risk their security. It's nice to have some real life company once in a while… which I can't afford too often – accept yaha^lalyah,  who had no life without me, and asked me to set him free, which I did, so he is with me in fire and water.

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why do you seek their systems. aside from isolation, why cant you make your own system ?

aside from isolation, my system is  checked, tried and true, and is complete and  ipeccable. my tribes assembly, the Saraf, from Taghuwar [="atlantis"*] lived very happily ever before we blew up the island to prevent it from becoming totally corrupted at the hands of bad guys.
(hint hint!)
this was before the closing of the tamahtufah, at that time telepathy was as apparent as talking is today - our language  was talking and telepathy combined. And everything was magical. We lit our cooking fires by magic, found our way – our path with heart -  by the magic of dancing, and so on.
I wrote a book that aside from history (or "fantasy" as non-beliefers would belief it to be) elaborates a lot about the wonders of the magical system. The 35 roles in the human loose washarah {=combined of a human washarah  + 5 groups of  variable number of washarat from other 5  species – animals, plants and spirits [=luminous inorganics].} an introduction - grammatical and philosophical -  to the language, including the table  of durim (specifying the meaning of each consonant) and the list of meaning of all vowels. And so on.
 
(just one formula is missing…)

a modern version of "my system", fit for the current conditions?
 i believe it exists. but this is only a guess. i don't know.
as the slogan on a ti-shirt (one i bought my son towards his  recruitment) goes:

 "my job is so secret, that even i don't know what i'm doing!"

all the more so I can't introduce it in public, open my school, (just the one you asked about, ju40) re-establish my tribe, as I thought I  will, years ago.
"they" [=the "bad guys", "devils", "gods", who sabotage whatever I do] won't let me.
Actually, I won't do what I am prevented from doing anyway – security-wise... so  have i been acting all this years, pretending to be a miserable looser?  having my kids pay a price? Very possibly.

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:G: Ms Z, if you say you encountered aliens in dreams, do you mean they exist separately from you and you communicated through dreams, or that it was just a dream fantasy?

   

bingo question G-to!

At the time I dreamed of escaping from abduction (it's written somewhere, and i won't find the link now) i believed they were inorganic beings, casta brand - because i "believed" inorganics existed (following the aforementioned journey with 2 inorganics following me all the way from south France to Amsterdam) and also since i identified 1 of them as my ex's father, which my ex long before identified as an ib incarnated in human body.
though i saw in my dream 3 spacecrafts landing, very tall creatures exit, 3 beams of green light projecting, crossed on me,paralyzing me, with immense effort i woke - yet i had no doubt it was "dreaming", meaning – encounter of sorts, no fantasy - it never occurred to me they could actually be aliens. i took space crafts and all as merely "dream display". (let me redirect you to my own question for this thread: "why people are so dumb?")
my dream about the grey... a dream or pure telepathy? Much stronger telepathy then i ever experienced - closing my eyes (asleep? or not?) I saw a plain on which pastel colors – green, pink, violet - were moving, changing, mingling, then a similarly colored ball appeared in front of the plan, casting colorful shadow on it, colors changed, changed, changed, changed, then a classic grey was looking at me. i got up from the hammock and went home. didn't want to talk to him - though he was nice, had shining eyes, not frozen like in grey pics. he was like excited pet mouse. later someone said this vision was a demonstration of  high dimensions - sure, a ball's projection on a plain! - yet i postponed judgment for years - i didn't "believe" in allies. yet.
if something is impossible, than it doesn't happen, right?
in both cases i had no doubt that i encountered real beings, not dream fantasies. but aliens? don't be ridiculous!

And you, G-to, do you believe in the omnipotence of NSA, or at least in their ability to read anyone's mind to the last single word any time they wish? If so – why?

* rofelmaw! remember how Dog, the Ghost, the 1st, leaped on me like rabies bitten  when i mentioned this?

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Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: tally-ho! on 05 July 2015 11:00:41 PM

to put is straight: what prevents  my tribe from reviving are the petty tyrants whose path is enslaving.
they blocked all evolution. particularly they blocked our magical path with heart in accord with  Yah 
only their extinction can possibly enable freedom for the honest.

you are doomed, petty tyrants.
we are on our way.

Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: Mr X on 06 July 2015 01:40:45 AM

sometimes you say things that i have heard before.

i will hopefully get back to you on this topic.

for now, some music,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGD2N5hJ2e0

x

Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: tally-ho! on 07 July 2015 02:19:37 AM

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sometimes you say things that i have heard before.

no more licking floors out of despair? :)

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i will hopefully get back to you on this topic.

i have no doubt you will.


 (music and tupes will have to wait though - it's my laptop's monthly period during which he won't play any. i'll have to find a better deal then catch up...)
P.S. what kind of ghost are you after - ghosts of the dead? or just "ghosts of the past?"
if the letter - there is probably a ghost of a "monument" i left in Laval - a note engraved roughly with a knife on a bench, in a boulevard near the center, in horrible french, saying something to the effect of "i'll wait for you at the hotel until 6:00 pm (some hour anyway)".
the spelling! the horror!
daylight! morning!

little time to sleep before the work starts biond my walls. drill. noise.

bototev (meitarit for "boker tov".)
a bit opressive clouds reading.
birds singing.
 
 

Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: tally-ho! on 16 July 2015 09:37:45 PM

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what is love, or what does love got to do with it ?

(since this is Saraf knowledg, not my own opinion, i move this subject to this thread, for continuity and  not to be in the way ofthe  living discussion over there.)

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definition: love is a potential between fields of energy around humans  edit: living beings {my mistake? VEZRY VERY strange! very unlike me!} - "luminous eggs" in casta terminology.

this was the "energetical" or "physical" definition - the complement "behavioral" (this one i don't know, but let's see what i'll recieve):
love causes the lover to "stretch his wings" over the loved, since the loved happiness makes the lover happy, and the loved troublesomeness makes the lover troubled. thus a lover would strive for his loved one's well-beign, and the more impeccable he is (impeccability→perfection*) the more the 2 can act when advantegous as if they are 1.

"love" in Agurah is 2 concepts - 2 words or "roots" :
omah and mamu.
mamu is the love suficient for mother-baby succesful relasions. it  iemerges fron the 2 lower etheric centers (equivalent to the 2 lower chacras - which are in the astral - and thats about all the theory i know about etheric centers.)
Omah is the love sufficient for male- female love relationship, emnating from all the etheric centers at once.

thus: a tribe is a huge field of omah.
since a tribe is consisted of individuals who were filtered into this system by individual love [=of their parents who chose to concieve them as manifestation of their own love] - it is consisted of individuals who all love[=omah] each other. thus the possibilities to act together are highly, extremely elaborated.

mamu you find between goyim -meaning unlike in Hebrew "non Jewish", - non tribal"[those who live in families, with a loose formation of community. they take-off to the journey when their time comes in couples, unlike the elaborate tribal formation.]

*perfection: physical definition: when the assemblage point permanent seat [from which it can move and return] is above  the scull's summit. behavioral definition: a perfect creature who decided to accomplish a goal will not give up as long as he can continue.  difficulty, exchaustion will not break him. and, since he can distinguish the possible from the impossible in advance (at those days this was normal, no super- or para-, providing you already got to this grade) - he will overtake only possible missions... thus success is guaranteed though sometimes &%@#$* hell difficult.
love sweetens it all!

Title: Jabberwockiesss
Post by: tally-ho! on 18 July 2015 10:18:47 AM

hello [X+(N 3^?)]
{?=4^∞}?

(or did i get it wrong?)

for the time being... i still can't  wacth tupes or listen to any music on my laptop.
also i fail to read the knuth's stuff - the page says "loading" but it doesn't - in few days it advanced  to showing page 1 (with a copyright note). the rest shown as blank pages.

is it just a matter of faster connection? i feel Cautious... choise might be crucial...

so i'm left with the music of neighbors' air-conditioners.
as summer here advances into the sauna phaze, they work 24\7. in sleeping and in wake.
along with the engine of my land-lord\neigbor's swimming pool, some hues of pink&dong, grammatical particles, robots, programs, vacum cleaners, tintuses, and other nonsenstial non-essential noises.

seems i'll have to move again... also feel cautiousss!

causious? why?
let me swing  my Don Kixotte Sword!
for peace of mind! for sanity!
for sweatness of life!
Talli-Ho!

Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: Mr X on 19 July 2015 12:44:16 PM

hello ms z,

to reply to points 1. 2. 3.

3. i can understand, people want to enjoy the company of like minded people. normal and needs no explanation. why cant you afford real life company all the time ?

2. if mr jojola can provide protection, why dont you seek his protection to avoid things keeping you down. and if he can somehow magically provide protection from some sort of weird paranormal oppression, why cant you ? what can he do that you cant. if "they" are stopping you from something as you say, why cant jojola stop them, or why cant you. how much does joel charge to protect.

1. while i agree people could achieve things as an group that could not be achieved by an indivdual, i dont really like the thought that and group or circle is required. a person not being able to have an vision without the tribe or acceptance and support is ridiculous.
perhaps they mean the tribe can help validate the vision, ground it. if i had an vision about you that resulted in factual information, and never mentioned it, i would never know if it was actual factual. if i mentioned it, you confirmed it as being accurate, vision grounded. then whatever produced the vision could be tested again, building an system. so working together does have benefits (and problems)

an individual could achieve plenty on their own.

with modern systems it seems like something that benefits the guru or leader of the group the most.

lastly, three day fasting while hiking sounds good. fasting is one of those things that works everytime, it will change the way you experience the world.

mr x.

Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: tally-ho! on 20 July 2015 10:25:18 PM

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why cant you afford real life company all the time ?

because the people who get too close to me might get hurt.
unless the bond is undeniable, it is more healthy for people to keep some distance from me.
which telling them the above would just confuse them, usually, won't cause any effective action on their side. It's too science-fictional scene for most people to take seriously. It would have been for me, before life presented accumulating proof. They can only decide I'm paranoid or delusional (even when I'm clearly not).
i used to act in a way that would leave a wee bad taste at the end of a nice contact (usually when I move away.)
well, I don't need to do much, I can't return favors if-when-I want to… which creates enough bad taste. which drove me crazy… until I fully understood what calamities I am saving them from.
Now that it's just me, the only trouble is moving meters from ex good friends, as a total stranger. Peanuts, compared to other's (and some of my own's…) other troubles. 
I apologize again, dear not-friends, though I doubt that it would clear anything.
took me long time to suspect i'm doing it deliberately. i'm acting often from a detached part of my consciousness.
it was tough when my children got hurt from this. now, on my own, with great beloved ones for virtual support on  daily basis, (+forum4…) it's no big deal anymore, particularly when i seem to see the end.
this days sabotage is seldom necessary - people just flinch away. Which thankfully saves me the bother.
 

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if mr jojola can provide protection, why dont you seek his protection to avoid things keeping you down.

Joel Jojola, as a medicin man of his tribe*, can provide protection for vision seekers under his guidance (within the powerful  oma h field of his tribe,  the Apache**  ) (when procedure is pure and strict enough) for the place and period they are questing, to assist them in receiving their vision clear and bright.
it's not that he can fight my fights for me, or that i would have asked him to.
One – or, well – let's do this DJ talk in appropriate DJ jargon – a warrior can only act out of his own personal motives*** . and only us, "the privileged", have the adequate personal motives to fight in order to recover the sweetness of life and the heart of the path.
No one can do that from philanthropic motives. philanthropists   would crumble under the pressure.

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and if he can somehow magically provide protection from some sort of weird paranormal oppression, why cant you ?

I can – to some extent, in some circumstances.
But there are times when it is wise to hide under someone else's apron.
 not that I took the vision quest as an excuse for hiding under an apron…   
I needed a vision badly.
This was just when I announced that I am carrying sort of explosive belt and will explode the whole creation unless a certain threat will be removed.
I stated I'll decide finally whether I'll be ready to do it AFTER receiving the vision I was about to quest.
In order to have the confidence about my right to do such a thing, and the courage -  to become the biggest ever serial killer in history/mytology… to be ready to kill every single leaving being…
I needed a vision.
 

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what can he do that you cant.

Recruit his alleys to assist my vision.
at that moment it was tough to find assistance, when so many Strong "they"(Als?) were… against it.

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if "they" are stopping you from something as you say, why cant jojola stop them,

he didn't volunteer.

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or why cant you.

Me – I am very strong Indian woman… but I'm no  match to – to what? well... there must be something I'm no match to… or must it?

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how much does joel charge to protect.

Again: he doesn't charge to protect – it's not a mafia body guard deal…
He does charge for the vision – 700 nis total it was. 4 days including food (2 meals for us vision seekers… we got only one –  some  arrived late and Joel decided to cancel the meal and get us on the mountain before sunset. We were late because  a train (mine) was canceled due to an accident on the railway, with no saying when the next train go, I took a taxi, met my ride nearly in time, then we waited another hour for 2 girls who were too on the canceled train… next train left on schedule.)
Even in an Indian tribe medicine men got paid – what I know is again from "Black Elk Speaks" – black elk's report of his first curing job as a medicine man. He said the father of the sick boy he cured gave him a good horse to express his gratitude, but he would do it anyway.
even a shaman needs money, what with flights to be available in other countries.
 
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while i agree people could achieve things as an group that could not be achieved by an indivdual, i dont really like the thought that and group or circle is required.

I meant required for causing a vision come true – not for viewing a vision. Isn't it what I said? Lets' see:

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you can't  perform    the edit: accomplish a vision unless you have a circle -

Well – I'm not sure about the correct English wording here - edited to try clear it, as yu see - "grounding" seems good choice.
anyway my opinion in this case is based not directly on Saraf knowledge, but on the medicine man who said something to that effect to Black Elk when he got severely sick, at age 18 if I remember correctly, after having a vision at age 8 which he kept secret, assuming no one would believe an 8 years old, missed some opportunities to act (an intimate meeting with his cousin Crazy Horse) , until he got sick and nearly died. Then his parents sent him to that medicine man, who, hearing his secret, prescribed a ceremony to act out Black Elk's vision, explaining to him that the first step to fulfill a vision is to perform it in front of the people.
Examining it again:
This would be obviously the most efficient strategy when one acts inside such as the above-mentioned omah field. 
But when one is, say, captive… or, just lives in mixed environment… he sure should keep his vision secret.
Judging by the (then) future of the Lakota tribe, namely the ghost dance&brass army of death, their omah  field was no doubt broken into.
Was this the reason Black Elk refused to share his vision in the first place?
Was the publication actually what sent it astray?
Whatever – I accept your experience based correction:
 

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a person not being able to have an vision without the tribe or acceptance and support is ridiculous.

True.
But having a vision is the easy part… causing it to be fulfilled is another thing.
Though IMO a  valid tribe is still essential – though not necessarily in the present, i.e. the time the visionary receives his vision\act on it.

Of course,
 [visionary+supportive tribe's]power>[visionary's power]
But there are other components to victory then sheer SIZE of a power.
 

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an individual could achieve plenty on their own.

Some rare individuals actually did.  :)

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with modern systems it seems like something that benefits the guru or leader of the group the most.

Your modern systems are old systems corrupted by penetration of hated ones. >:(
If someone   manages tobe accepted, faking true motives  and whatever - they can, as a virus, endorse the tribe into their own production line.
Yah watayah.****
yea, fasting is strong - as is lack of sleep.
i see green luminous shade to the letters sometimes.
first time i told myself "im dreaming! it is dreaming!"
but it never went any further.
i dances once - what to do with it? was so dissapointed to recieve: nothing.
so nothing i never did.

*this is my opinion, according to my own knowledge. Joel, though, when I asked him, few years ago, weather he is a medicine man or  a chief, refused to name a title, said something to the effect of just somebody. I guess he has his reasons. is aware of the problematicalness of the partly null tribal procedures? is the way he works with non-tribe members evoke disapproval? I don't know, I just can see that anyway he is still operating effectivly.     
**  Which is a severe weak point of his system by now, a sever security risk. He doesn't work within the Apache anymore – I am no Apache, hardly any of the others at the vision quest he performs in this country are. He doesn’t perform his sacred work within a multi-functional community that tough Survival keeps fit and uncorrupt. Well – Joel (unlike Kurt) does check and  approve (or dis-) of each participant personally, though he doesn't make a big deal out of this. and  a seer would know at first glance who deserves to be accepted to his tribe and who does not – and at emergency can skip the procedures and accept a stranger under live fire, say, during a fight. This happened before. But… this way, Joel himself lacks the protection of an active tribal omah field. Which leaves some gaps for enemies to crawl in, and sure enough they do.

 ***  "personal motives" are love for beloved-ones. Individually.  greed or fear are not. in an opened- tamahtufahed world, anyone would see the possible results of such motivations – and they are always, by definition, destructive for one's own beloved - sweatness of life – heart of the path – evolution. Thus no one in his right mind would act from such motives. there are other decent motives – like hunger, one's own; but non is strong enough to enable elaborate team work as is the winning factor of our warriorship.
****   A magical chant/formula to say when facing some particular horrific horror, expressing appreciation (in case this already happened) or intent/belief/trust that yah will use the momentum – the motive? To create as a result great, evolutionary change.  rough translation: O the misfortunes/horrors/wonders/miracles  of fate!

Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: tally-ho! on 21 July 2015 09:28:45 AM

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3. i can understand, people want to enjoy the company of like minded people.

like-minded? you said yourself how you enjoyed the [virtual] company of Chriss and other unlikly-minded at old-dsys-SR?

X-chic, are you playing the fool? devil's advocate?

P.S. i was crossinga bridge at the edge of town... over the tracks... +fire... + exoesize of sorts...all before listening to your music.

  red hand?

Title: one cow at a time {hebrew: פרה פרה - para para}
Post by: tally-ho! on 22 July 2015 05:58:07 PM

Hello ju4chic

very likely it's just my ignorance -
but your (and SR's) experiments remind me of a scene from the book "candid":
candid's uncle is hospitalized, in deep coma, surrounded by relatives.
a doctor visits
(i quote from memory)
doctor oh, are you awake indeed?
uncle: umm
DR: let's check yor sensual perception. (folding 3 fingers, leaving 2 fingers erect): how many fingers do you see?
uncle: five.
Dr: oh. ( stretching up another finger) and now?
uncle: i would say... five.
doctor: (folding 4 fingers, leaving 1 erect) and now?
uncle: umm... five.
doctor (to the nerse) his nervous system seems to still be in hypotutautological state of bumm. his mind is still very blurred.. too early for the thorough neurological scrutiny preliminary to heavy  injectioning. (leaving the room)
uncle:(to relatives): how much booze is left?
relative 1: two fingers.
uncle: what?! you almost finished the bottle?! bastards!
relative 1: well, you've been in comma.
ancle: so what? couldn't you wait for me??! bastards! why didn't you wait for me!
relative 2:  well, forget it. who cut the cards?
ancle: gimme the bottle, mother*&%@#s! and let me cut the carts!

and so on.

why you insist on choosing subjects as boring as possible, and presenting them in the most stupid way?
you do everything to numb the super-senses!

why not - say - let a hot chick "send" her phone number (or - something more personal? with her distinct odor?) and let  young machos guess - the first to guess correctly wins a ROMANTIC date or something?

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for example the "dreaming together" remark 10 years ago

remind me?
sound like my naeve amature provocations...  :D was it?

Title: Re: arduous - meaning, possible
Post by: tally-ho! on 26 July 2015 07:00:06 PM

my vision quest report
http://spiritualitydiscussiongroup.yuku.com/topic/930/vision-quest# (http://spiritualitydiscussiongroup.yuku.com/topic/930/vision-quest#)
 facebook support group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/796718170375025/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/796718170375025/)
the facebook talk were i declaired i don't smoke, drink or touch any druggs
https://www.facebook.com/artificialtelepathy/posts/859524020733253?comment_id=859741770711478&reply_comment_id=859745300711125&offset=0&total_comments=8&notif_t=share_comment

Title: Re: one cow at a time {hebrew: פרה פרה - para para}
Post by: tally-ho! on 28 July 2015 06:02:34 PM

wow!
discovered this at experiments forum, SR:
http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/topic/880/new-experiment-guess-the-2-names-Dog-had-guessed (http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/topic/880/new-experiment-guess-the-2-names-Dog-had-guessed)

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new experiment - guess the 2 names Dog had guessed!

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here is some of the history.

the experiment i suggest:

guess the 2 names idlestalker and i send each other END find the thread where Dog mentioned these names.
(they are in the title)

it's a "confidance" exam... but even if you chit and search Dog's posting, it will be an achievment if you guess which whitch is which!

it's not about sience, to my opinion... but if you have a suggestion for more validation than the fact it is online for long time, +(hopefully) that idlestalker would approve of my acount - i'm open to suggestions.

i have to claim tough that so far i never checked my own receiving (of the name he send) with idlestalker , so i might be wrong about it's maching Dog's choice. but anyway, that choice is there, and if not a corect gues,, it is at least a sarcastic take on our exchange!


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a frame of time?any suggestions, people?

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Hi charlila.

Thanks for taking the time to start an experiment. I want to make sure that I understand what you are setting up.

You and 'idlestalker' communicated a name to each other privately and GD has guessed or expressed those names out on the CL forum...and it is our challenge to find out what those names are. Is that it?

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hey tawwanda!

wonders and miracles! i'v just had a little chat with Dog...(5th post down) [deleted since - tally ho!] and o, miracle! i can post here again!

so, my answer to your question:


yes, "idlestalker" (my personal way to adress the poster ldstalker) and i send each other names by telepathy - privetly and secretely - and one day, when i recieved the current name he sent me (unless i got the name wrong - which happend too at times) i recalled a title of one of Dog's threads that contained both names.

and yes, what i 'm asking you to guess - in whatever way - is the 2 names

you can claim our choice of names was inspired by this thread... but, (speaking for myself only, of course) i can tell you i built "a mantra" from consonants and vowels, according to there meanings in Ag~urah, then i realized there is an English word very near... analized it as Ag~!urah, was satisfyed, and bingo, chose it.

done?

A TIME FRAME

thinking again about it, i think the best is "you touch - you go".

let everybody post their gues...
or would you rather send it ti me and to tawwanda personaly?
tawwanda?


Tawwanda
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Apr 17 07 11:25 AM

Glad that you were able to work it out charlila.

I like the idea of folks putting their answers on the forum, but that is up to you. There may be a reason that I haven't thought of to keep answers hidden until the end of your experiment.

I'll be taking a couple of days off.

Good luck everyone!


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i just think people's answers might influence each other.
is it good or bad?
let's try without it, so we'll be able to compare later.

so - PM us both, and anounce on board that you send it (for there are PM monsters lurking in the darkness, you know).

charlila
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Apr 21 07 4:28 PM

so?

everybody rabbit down?

charlila
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send me anonimous mails.

send a note to tawwa about it.

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 wow - wow - look what elsei found!

the above mentio thread were i cought Dog red-handed - just that patr was deleted since. yet, read!
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and sure enough - here it is
http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/topic/786/I-am-a-Fire-Engine-Hear-Me-Roar?page=1 (http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/topic/786/I-am-a-Fire-Engine-Hear-Me-Roar?page=1)

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My fuzzy hiney.

Today as I open the forum, I see a bunch of whiners. If there was a warriorly bone amongst you, you would take it out and hit yourself with it.

Maybe a rewrite would be in order.

"Whacky and whiney discussions regarding one's status as a self proclaimed whatever, the nature of our fantasies, and how we're being mistreated here"

Not that naguals haven't spurred the conversation and provided unconscious illustrations of various forms of psychological pathology.. but we can only use so many bad examples.

Somehow It has become acceptable, even popular, to come onto this board, and complain about this board.

No other discussion site would tolerate such noise, and no other board is expected to receive postings so diametrically opposed to its purpose.

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So we have a troll cellar. It is a most common device, first used in my memory by the original nagnet.

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Ultimately, this chaos is my fault. Surely all these powerful magicians are not responsible for their own actions. I created a niche where you crybabies have the right to avalanche your goofery, and your sense of entitlement assures that your whinery will fill any vacuum. Now I'm sputtering to keep my head above the noise.

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Inga, your positive contributions to this place amount to zero.

Ra6as is in the negative numbers. Charlila can't put two rational words in the same sentence. Sid is displaying his toys.

Sil thinks everyone who doesn't believe her nuttiness is my sock puppet, and there are five more names I could surely add to the list.

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Thank you.

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Just because I'm so... you know.. adamant about my position... It would be interesting if I could make predictions of human behavior based on my ideas about how people work...

... and then try to test those predictions with an experiment.

If you are a total believer and would like to debunk my philosophical stance, and you're really sure I'm wrong..

.... this should be interesting to you... just like if you're a skeptic and you might be interested in seeing my ideas vindicated... this could be that, too.

The thing is, the procedures I have in mind requires three or four volunteers... you know... folks who volunteer to be fooled, in order to test an idea experimentally.

Now it's nothing extreme, and except for the chance that the experiment won't go your way, I can think of no reason anyone might regret having participated.

... that is, there's no humiliation or "gotcha" coming... It's going to be about your candid reaction to stimuli on the board.

If you volunteer, you'll start out anonymous. At the end of the experiment, your participation will be released with the results of the experiment.

You won't know when the experiment is gonna happen, or what it's going to be... you just post and read the board as usual. There may be some nominal tasks like filling out a questionaire or working a certain word into your regular posts.

Something like that.

An example might be like I predict that people might remember posts they like, better than they remember posts they don't like.

That's not it... that's an example. After a week I might say the experiment is over, and give each volunteer a list of a hundred words, and have them click the ones that have been used on SR in the last few days.

Something like that.... but in this example, someone might not want to participate if their memory is gonna be compared to other folks'... in the actual experiment, there are no intrapersonal comparisons in the works.

You know, it's not like I couldn't just grant myself license to try to fool people, if that's what this was about. I got a pretty good experiment design here.

Potential volunteers will have more questions. In order to protect your identity through the length of the experiment, please do PM me... anonymous is fine.

(noone volunteered to be fooled, GD claimed he has 2 volunteers but never proceded.)

so my recieving him peeping into my telepathic attempt of communication with Idlestalker was correct.
he he DID mess up with... what? how?
his list of 100 words posted on board came shortly after ldstalker's 'Meao!" emoticon. GD somehow knew what was happening behind the curtains.

an advenced psyce?
or did he have other way to peep into our communication?
what way?
and what was his motive?
what do you think, Fantastic4Gents?




 

Title: Re: one cow at a time {hebrew: פרה פרה - para para}
Post by: ju4o on 28 July 2015 08:39:47 PM

 
If you and ldstalker wanted to avoid other people listening in to your telepathy you should probably have used encryption.

Title: Re: one cow at a time {hebrew: פרה פרה - para para}
Post by: tally-ho! on 31 July 2015 02:59:30 PM

guess your'e right.
at the time all the telepathic experience i had - unless you want to count my blubbering with  yah [=spirit, god] - was my tight contact with charlie, my Aghuru [="nagual" in casta jargon] - that is, his "left side of awareness" (from his daily consiousness he knew nothinghad no clue about it, as i realized after couple of years of such communication, when i met him at last face to face.)
so that when i suggested to ldstalker that preliminary training, i was not at all ready to find it so problematic.

but even if we would have want to use encription - how could we possibly exchange keys? without ever meeting face to face?

Title: Re: one cow at a time {hebrew: פרה פרה - para para}
Post by: tally-ho! on 31 July 2015 03:18:01 PM

Jufo
hmm... if someone knows the answer - likely you are the one.
but you will need encription to pass it to me...
so again it's "put some sault on the bird's tail."

forgot to mention -
 about the time ghost dog examined my native hebrew claim by the briliant gramatical question "where the dagesh is?" he posted a claim that i live on social security.
which was correct. (i mentioned it already at The Hat, in recent years.)
which i ignored and he never mentioned again.

how did he know?
his psychic talents?
his fuzzy hinney?
or... just some technology?
or exchange with someone else who masters such technology?

Title: blue sky? black eye? torture? die?
Post by: tally-ho! on 06 August 2015 03:56:02 PM

no comprendo nada, amigos.
i really don't know what i'm saying, but i'm furious!

please answer! specifically you, X, and cut the bull!

thank you. 

P.S. X - which of the cars in the image hereafter would better describe the one you mentioned?
P.S.S. my connection is still ve-ry restricted
P.S.S.S. can someone tell me or help me find out about the arab letters combination?
http://zeta.forum4.org/pix/lilith2.png

Title: 20 questions
Post by: tally-ho! on 07 August 2015 10:01:15 PM

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soon after i was on an car ride with miss -, an longer ride than usual. as soon as the car started driving forward, i mentioned

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me: P.S. X - which of the cars in the image hereafter would better describe the one you mentioned?

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as details of the car is personal information it would be inappropriate to give the information,

my question actually was, "if the car X mentioned was one of those on the google doodle, which one it was?"- like in the game, a paraphraze on "who knows 20"(fail to google for the game;s English name, my connection get stuck again, my forum4 search dosen't function prfectly as usual, and so on) [=1 chooses some object and tells the other wheather is it animal, plant or mineral, then the opponant have to find it  by 20 "yes/no" questions) - where the questions are "if he was a field, what kind of field he was?" (hydrophonic...flowers... hay...wreck...) "if he was an actor, what kind of actor he was?" "...super hero?" "aprite?""...animal?" and so on.
thus i asked - if that vehicle was a google doodle car, which of the following he was?


respecting X's sense of privacy, let everybody offer their opinions:

WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING CARS BEST DESCRIBES THE SAID CAR? 

Title: Re: 20 questions
Post by: tally-ho! on 09 August 2015 06:50:11 AM

well well...

a gentle-woman has to keep toughly to her word...

didn't i say i'm alright sitting alone in the darkness - i mean  pulling the chestnuts out of the fire for all by myself?

so:
it's the last little car on the right side of the pic.
the letter is E.

P.S. look what i have found!
http://www.artforthemasses.us/castaconold/viewtopic.php?t=574&sid=8423cd24ef7a837e525cb39500d4eaf2 (http://www.artforthemasses.us/castaconold/viewtopic.php?t=574&sid=8423cd24ef7a837e525cb39500d4eaf2)
didn't remember it existed... though once upon a time i got a hint  to google for "Jenaro's hat" with J...

Title: Re: 20 questions
Post by: tally-ho! on 09 August 2015 06:30:41 PM

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x: to be honest i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with that google pic and question with it.

honest?


as i said: the pic is from an animation google replaced their icon with on their search page that day. it shaws: trafic lights changing into red – 6 cars   stopping;  green - all cars moving, the road seen as a blurred strip.  Repeating  forever.

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you mean 20 questions, a guessing game ?

i mean a game based on 20 questions, a bit more sophisticated and very funny, that a psychologist  friend taught me years ago:

the chooser  chooses individual for a subject (one who all players know - in real life or someone famous.) the other(s) ask him questions like - "if x was a color, which color he was?"
"if x was a spaceship, what kind of spaceship he was?" "if x was a letter, what letter he was?" (x, dah) "if x was a dance...?" "...a syndrome?" A city?" "And empire?" "and vampire?" "And on-line game?" and so on.

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not going to happen in this thread,

Happened already, no?

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general supernatural exploration is not about guessing games, it has been, but its over now.

Huh?
WTH?
I suggested a guessing game, as other forum4 gents, including you, did before; any problem with this?
actually we have a guess already – mine; [=the right-most car on the pic, marked "E".]
or do I fail to see a danger or an implication? Which cause the other fantastic gents to refrain from guessing? Are you trying to warn us, or me?
I'm open to hear and consider, but why this funny negative way?
P.S. woke afternoon from a heavy sleep with the words
Ellison greeter miller – houfshtet-haus  gratter-house\mouth
The mouth (replacing the house) made me laugh and woke me. thinking - what, another of those telepathic massages? – and jump up to write it.
P.S.S. "general supernatural exploration is not about guessing games, it has been, but its over now." - or do you mean GSE  is well established by now and thus no need for guessing?
if this is the case - is my answer correct? or how do you know? and how come?

Title: Re: blue sky? black eye? torture? die?
Post by: tally-ho! on 10 August 2015 07:29:44 PM

Ellison greeter miller – houfshtet-haus  gratter-house
Ellison greeter miller – houfshtet-haus  gratter-mouth

the mouse
            sig-sag
roundish
     drunken
                  dense
                          bagging to be bounces
buggins to be gratter-house
matter-mouth
wov! roar! sheker vexazav! 


P.S. i have no clue what was the poet's intent is, or what any of it means, if it does
but your authority in this issue is accepted, X.

Title: resistance is futile?
Post by: tally-ho! on 24 August 2015 01:12:47 PM

how many futile resistance attempts many truthes have?

Title: Re: resistance is futile?
Post by: tally-ho! on 24 August 2015 07:50:00 PM

                                                     

how many lies?

       

and how many corners many lies have?

x
aspen
i guess i'm not the first, and won't be the last, to reckon that forum4 (or what is it about to be called now, that it's name is deleted?) lost much of it's glamour.

well...


seems i won't be much on line at the coming times anyway.

so...
thanks for all the fishie fish.
P.S.

a good bye present - maybe you will even like some or all for  a logo

(http://spiritualitydiscussiongroup.yuku.com/sreply/7658/the-Terminal-Dream-Rirual-Cabaret)
(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/39a351dd9c80664d274136a2edde47e9b090771_r.jpg)

(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/496154986a21365490e241be40ae493e72ff7f4_r.jpg)

Title: Re: resistance is futile?
Post by: tally-ho! on 24 August 2015 09:28:23 PM

* thank you merlin
it helped, as you see
some truthes' corners stickjng out

Title: Re: resistance is futile?
Post by: tally-ho! on 24 August 2015 10:03:01 PM

(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/496154986a2130e6549241be40ae493e72ff7f4_r.jpg)

Title: Re: resistance is futile?
Post by: tally-ho! on 25 August 2015 06:23:02 AM

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